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A fore note: I am a North American Aboriginal person, not a racist or anti zionist.

The Aryan word comes from the Old Persia world and still exists in Iran amoung other places. Germany was involved with Afghanistan/Iran and other muslim nations since the 1800's up till the end of WWII. Hitler toured Afghanistan in 1932 or there abouts and was told about the Aryyan people who where nomadic and disliked Judism. The nomadic aryyans where a source of debate amoung German scholars during 1850-1888 and in due course the legends of Aryyans evolved to Aryans , who incorrectly went from being Indo-europeans to decendants of Atlantis dating back 1 million years.

Regardless, Hilter liked the name and used it much like the swastika symbol of peace which he spied in a Hindu temple while in India.

Most people believe incorrectly that Aryans are white northern warriors. They are muslims and the name Aryan mean noble.

Caravan's by Michener, Ramdon house 1963, read this or use google

2006-07-05 00:56:52 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science Anthropology

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I agree that Arya means nobel .

I agree that Arya were not any white race.

But rest of what you provided is also misleading crap.Hitler did not need to spy.

German scholars were studying Hinduism and British imperialists and evangelicans creating the myth of Aryan race.

Study it more.

India is called Aryavarta again and again in ancient scripture.

This theory is being challenged by two new discoveries, one archaeological and the other linguistic. Firstly, in the Rig Veda, the Ganges, India's sacred river, is only mentioned once, but the mythic Saraswati is praised fifty times. For a long time, the Saraswati river was indeed considered a myth, until the American satellite Landstat was able to photograph and map the bed of this magnificent river, which was nearly 14 km wide and took its source in the Himalayas. Archaeologist Paul-Henri Francfort, who studied the Saraswati region at the beginning of the Nineties, found out that the Saraswati had "disappeared", because around 2200 B.C., an immense drought reduced the whole region to aridity and famine. "Thus", he writes, "most inhabitants moved away from the Saraswati to settle on the banks of the Indus and Sutlej rivers".

An archaeological site, dating back to 7500 BC and older than hitherto oldest known human civilisations including those found in the Valley of Sumer, Harappa and Egypt, was discovered by a team of Indian marine archaeologists in the Gulf of Cambay off Gujarat coast.

Ancient economics apart, Dwarka was and still remains a place of tremendous religious importance to Hindus. Legend associates it with Lord Krishna, who spent his early childhood and youth in Mathura, but then he slew the mighty Kamsa. For this, he and his tribe of followers, the Yadavas, were attacked repeatedly by Kamsa’s father-in-law Jarasandh. Tired of these repeated wars, Krishna migrated with his entire clan of Yadavas to Dwarka which was a much safer place.

In Dwarka, Krishna is supposed to have built a mighty kingdom on a site selected for him by Vishnu’s learned ‘vahan’, Garud. The city he built is supposed to have extended over 104 kms. It was well fortified and surrounded by a moat, spanned by bridges, which were removed in the event of attack by an enemy. According to legend, the gods assisted Krishna in the construction of this magnificent city.

Archaeological excavations have unearthed artifacts that prove that modern Dwarka is the sixth settlement of the name on this site. The earlier cities have been, at various times, swallowed by the sea. The waves of the sea still lap the shores of this famous town, lending scenic beauty to this important pilgrimage destination.

The early civilisations known to mankind hitherto were in the Valley of Sumer around 3,500 BC, Egyptian Civilisation (3,000 BC) and Harappan (2,500 BC), explained Dr Joshi, adding that all the findings have been alongside a palaeolithic age river course traced upto nine km south of the Saurashtra coastline.

Not only that, the Rig Veda makes dozens of references to the sea or the ocean, which "clearly show a maritime culture," in the words of the Vedic scholar David Frawley:

"The image of the ocean permeates the entire text of the Rig Veda." Even India's eastern and western oceans are clearly mentioned (X. 136.5), so are ships and shipping. All this does not fit with invaders from landlocked Central Asia, which is why this prominent aspect of the Rig Vedic environment was obscured by conventional scholars.

"Not a single finding in the Indus-Saraswati region can be associated with the ingress of an Aryan people (or any other people, for that matter) - neither pottery nor utensils nor tools nor weapons nor graves nor any form of art. Oddly, the "invaders" left no trace of their arrival. J. M. Kenoyer, who is still pursuing excavations at Harappa:

"There is no archaeological or biological evidence for invasions or mass migrations into the Indus valley between the end of the Harappan phase, about 1900 B.C. and the beginning of the Early Historic period around 600 B.C. "

Jim G. Shaffer, another U.S. archaeologist with first-hand experience of Harappan site:

"Current archaeological data do not support the existence of an Indo-Aryan or European invasion into South Asia any time in the pre- or protohistoric periods."

Added for the post below:

9,500-Year-Old City Found Underwater Off India

Discovery in Bay of Cambay Will Force Western Archaeologists to Rewrite History.

The civilization of Ancient Egypt occurred in a past so remote that today it seems mystical. The pyramids and other temples, with their hieroglyphics depicting a flourishing civilization, have a mysterious, almost magical appeal. It seems inconceivable that people of an advanced society could have walked those ancient streets.

Now, it was announced in January, a civilization has been uncovered that would have appeared just as ancient to the people who built the pyramids as the pyramids seem to us.

According to marine scientists in India, archaeological remains of this lost city have been discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India. And carbon dating says that they are 9,500 years old.

This news completely contradicts the position of most Western historians and archaeologists, who (because it did not fit their theories) have always rejected, ignored, or suppressed evidence of an older view of mankind's existence on planet Earth. Human civilization is now provably much more ancient than many have believed.

According to the BBC's Tom Housden, reporting on the Cambay find:

The vast city — which is five miles long and two miles wide — is believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years.

The site was discovered by chance last year by oceanographers from India's National Institute of Ocean Technology, who were conducting a survey of pollution.

Using sidescan sonar, which sends a beam of sound waves down to the bottom of the ocean, they identified huge geometrical structures at a depth of 120 feet.

Debris recovered from the site — including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads, sculpture, and human bones and teeth — has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old (BBC article).

Why dont you chek out biological, archeological evidence?

If Iran was the original"aryan" why the river Saraswati most important river mentioned in vedas in Located by NASa in Indian Himalaya?

And if place of origin of Sanskrit , was Iran, how come they forgot more scientific Nagari script , instead of percian which has less phonetical sounds than it?

All evidences and neo searches show Archeological sites stating confimity of Indus civilization throughout India.

You will get your answer at the site I have mentioned in the souce. It has many more links in its reference.

Indian sites are older than mesopotapian civilisation. Indians called themselves Arya when Iran was not even civilised.

Earlier Indologists could not accept those older dates because most of them were Christians and came with a prejudice that world was created just 4000-6000 years ago. So they tried to abridged everything in that time line only.

2006-07-06 09:31:10 · answer #1 · answered by Karma 4 · 1 1

Rig veda are older than Iranian civilisation. Aryan moved Westward.

Plenty of Archeological evidence, today.

Saraswati is the proof. There are many others too. Like the Dwarka, the lost city of Krishna, has been located under the sea. Some other sites too. Which dates back to 9000 years.

2006-07-09 14:19:27 · answer #2 · answered by rian30 6 · 1 0

Most of it is true. But think about this. Indo-Aryans of the past have nothing to do with Isam. Isam was not around during the time of the Aryans. The closest would be Zoroastrianism. Iran is also a cognate of Aryan and means "Land of the Aryans"

2006-07-06 03:08:36 · answer #3 · answered by caterpillar 2 · 1 0

The Aryans were a people from Central Asia who swept down into the Indian sub-continent and overthrew the pre-existing Dravidian culture.

2006-07-05 12:36:11 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Iranians were the only pple who named their lands "aryan" later Persia's colonies like india adopted the name! and hilter used linguistic similiarities between persians and germans to claim germans to be aryans. Iranian kings all called themselves "Aryamehr"(sun of aryans) 2500 years ago. and arya is a very frequent world in persian names since that time on. i really beome suprised when indians claim it, coz they r drvidian ethnic, and westerns claiming it coz they r mixed and not aryans for sure. also it's a big suprise for me that many pple ignore even persian ancient places where is full of the word "aryans" on the walls! and still exist, and claim maybe because of this a theory they r aryans. for sure aryans r whom have the word in real world in their lands, not whome making funny thoeris of aryans ethnic

2006-07-09 08:20:34 · answer #5 · answered by shirazmohsen 1 · 0 0

I'm not sure what you're question is, but I thought I'd point out also that the term Aryan is also used to describe the people who, according to legend, brought the teachings of Hinduism, the concept of Brahma, the caste system, etc. to India.

2006-07-05 08:20:04 · answer #6 · answered by kaplah 5 · 0 1

ARYANS ARE FORM THE NORTH OF INDIA THE ONLY TRUE ARYANS IN THIS WORLD ARE THE GYPSIES WHO HAPPEN TO BE FROM THE NORTH OF INDIA

2006-07-05 10:57:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Yes, always one of the most misunderstood terms ever...
I understand that it refers to a group of Indo-European languages... nothing to do with racial types.

2006-07-05 08:59:12 · answer #8 · answered by elc7545 1 · 0 1

Why do you have to refer to yourself as a "North American Aboriginal person"? Why not just say "white" or "black" or "indian" etc?

I mean, nice info and all, but what is your point?

2006-07-05 15:32:49 · answer #9 · answered by Goose&Tonic 6 · 0 1

This is term coined by the crack pot german plagiarist maxmueller aka....anthropologist to suck up to Hitler....

2006-07-05 11:49:01 · answer #10 · answered by Really Zany 1 · 1 1

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