I was watching the Germany-Argentina game today and after his Penalty kick did that big cat #20 give a "Heil Hitler" or were we all imagining things, or did that salute change in meaning since Sound of Music Era.
2006-06-30 18:10:00 · 13 answers · asked by alwaysmoose 7 in Sports ➔ Football ➔ FIFA World Cup (TM)
You know what, unless you saw it for yourself don't answer the question!!! Also I'm not assuming anything I'm just trying to make sense of what I and the other 100 people in the pub saw.
2006-06-30 19:44:55 · update #1
And I don't care that Germany won either...actually part of me is kind of glad they did. I don't hate Germans either. Oh yeah did I mention DONT ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION UNLESS YOU SAW IT TOO!!!
2006-06-30 19:52:45 · update #2
The "nazi salute" was used long before Hitler was ever born, and is still used to this day in Austria. When asked why they salute their flag with an upraised arm, they tend to reply "Why would we change a long-standing tradition? Just because some two-bit painter's son made it unpopular in Germany?" Outside the Germanic world it is always associated with Nazism. Within the Germanic world I have a feeling it is much more complex.
A similar thing happens with the white robes and pointy hoods. While here in the US that will always be associated with the KKK, in Spain it has been the traditional garb of the brotherhoods of the various local churches. When taking their holy statues and virgins on parade through the streets during holy week (Semana Santa), the men dress up in this garb as they have since medieval times. I'm not sure, but I think the KKK actually borrowed that symbol from Catholic popular ceremony (ironically).
The point is, symbols have a much more complex and varied meaning once they are borrowed or lifted by social groups for specific social or political reasons.
2006-06-30 18:36:14 · answer #1 · answered by Kempes Klub 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I saw that, too, but his arm was definitely more relaxed than a Heil Hitler would probably be, so I don't think we've got anything to worry about... From what I understand, modern-day Germany is very NOT ok with Nazi references, so this guy would likely be kicked off the team by popular German demand if they thought he was a neo-Nazi.
But, we might want to watch out if Germany wins the World Cup, we know what can happen when Germans get a little too nationalistic... :) (j/k)
2006-06-30 18:17:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You must hav been seriously bored to notice that, or were you supportin Argentina and upon realisin that it was the end of the line for them, tried to find flaws with the Germans? Get over the whole Hitler thing will you. Suppose it was exactly what u thought u saw, does it make a difference? It's the world cup, enjoy it.
2006-06-30 19:45:54 · answer #3 · answered by ? 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
#20 lukas Podolski was born in Poland and moved to germany with his parents at a later time so i higly doubt that he would be givng the heil hitler salute and it was more of a wave then anything.
2006-06-30 18:49:41 · answer #4 · answered by axelrose222 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah and germany won
2006-06-30 18:15:56 · answer #5 · answered by Perawan 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That was not a heil hitler salute....Dont preasume things...
2006-06-30 19:34:31 · answer #6 · answered by fireashes 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, you're just overreacting to what was merely a simple gesture of excitement/rejoicing. Podolski's a cool kid.
2006-06-30 18:37:49 · answer #7 · answered by bitterswtchocolate 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah .. I saw that too. He did it with his left arm .. But none the less it was an acknowledgement. Hmmmm?
2006-06-30 18:13:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You saw a gesture you thought was 'hail hitler' salute.
But I'm sure it wasn't ...
2006-06-30 19:06:19 · answer #9 · answered by il divo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There you go again always being a moose, get a grip on it.
2006-06-30 19:34:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋