a couple things come to mind.
1)The Kalam argument, "Whatever begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist therefore the universe has a cause".
In Lee stroble's book a case for a creator, he goes over it like this. In order for there not to have been a creator to act as the cause, everything would have had to come into being from complete nothingness. While we can't prove this didn't happen, the opposition makes more sense. The book says basically, it is harder to beleive than magic, because atleast with magic the magician has something to work with. We don't worry that while we're at work a horse will pop up in our living room at home out of nothing, from nothing, for nothing. (keep reading on the subject in Lee Strobel's The Case for a Creator)
2) Irreducible complexity. This is basically the idea that even complex machines built by the most brilliant minds can have some parts taken away and still function effectively. These are highly thought out, planned, and designed mechanisms. In nature, however, we find irreducible complexity, meaning if we lose even a molecule in the system, it would not properly function. The odds of everything popping into existence, AND into perfect wroking order is beyond plausible.
I am not trying to act like an expert in any way on the subject, so saying something rude about my comment means nothing. I am simply bringing to light some new evidence I have found on the subject of creation.
You have to admit, it is starting to be harder to prove evolution than creation as new things come to light in our ever advancing scientific world. While evolution explains some things rather well, it can't and never will, explain creation. The moment when everything came into being. I do have my facts straight, and if you do not agree, atleast read the book, and then look at your biology book again. Research the topics you find, and then take another look at what you thought you knew. I did.
2006-07-12 18:21:35
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answered by godluvsmommas 2
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First of all 'invent' and 'design' are two completely different things.
If an inventor decided to keep his invention to himself, well it wouldn't matter because eventually someone else or several others would invent it.
However, if a designer, designed something and decided to keep it to himself, someone else could come along and design something with the same concept but could not replicate that exact design.
Does that mean that God designed our entire universe? I still have no idea, but I know that he didn't invent it. It has far too much meaning to be a mere invention.
2006-06-29 11:57:45
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answered by applecheeks 4
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Give me a big fact break!!!
The universe is NOT an invention. Is a child or a flower an invention?
Is a painting or song an invention?
I keep hearing these lame excuses why there is a god. Show me some hard proof and then I will be convinced.
Did you ever hear of the dyslexic agnostic insomniac that would lay awake at night wondering if there was a Dog?
2006-07-09 09:36:05
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answered by sleeplessinslo 2
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A inventor takes a idea that he has and then invents but he or she works with materials already in existence and either improves or takes th materials and makes something entirely new . God created the universe from nothing and then uses the dust from that universe to make man to make the form of man but no life until he put His breath on it. But I know hat you mean -just a play on words. There was no big bang-for that theory is that matter exploded and this exploded matter turned into sky,air ,water and eventually man-even if you try to reason(since evolution is not of faith but comes from man's intellect) its more science fiction than God could ever be . At least creationism makes sense and one can put some validity and order to it.
2006-07-12 17:00:13
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answered by Anonymous
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At some point one has to accept that SOMETHING always existed, either God or the makings of the Big Bang/Universe. One could make the philosophical argument that God was the "uncaused cause." Further, one could state that "everything that was CREATED, was created by God." This leaves a philosophical hole for God. In other words, God didn't have to be created. I see design everywhere, although I wouldn't describe it as an invention.
2006-07-09 14:09:04
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answered by Peruser of the AHW 1
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The question is self-defeating. If there had to be god to invent the universe, then there also had to be a god-inventor to invent god, as well as god-inventor inventor to invent him, ad infinitum. Most who make this argument say that god always was and always will be, but, if that is possible, the same claim can be made about the universe, thus obviating the need for god.
2006-06-29 11:56:02
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answered by rich k 6
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No.
Ever heard of the watchmaker analogy? Wikipedia has some good information on it (check sources).
There is also a good book called The Blind Watchmaker.
There is a process called natural selection. This has brought out creation. Before that, we have things to make life from the Big Bang. It is all science.
Please note that every designer uses many people and things to make the design. To make a watch, for example, a person who can make metals is needed. Other people with previous designs also influence how this watchmaker may make the watch. Each piece is part of the whole. Natural selection is this process in comparison.
Also please remember that seeing a watch, one would imply several people involved in its coming into being, disproving any idea of one God or being therein constructing it alone.
2006-06-29 11:52:35
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answered by Xtreme 2
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Yes, if the world is an invention, but I don't know that it is, and neither do you.
Look at what's involved in theism (that is, belief in God). We assume that because the world contains persons the origin of the world must be some kind of person (whom we call call God) - but that does not follow. Granted that the world developed or evolved from some fundamental set of principles, and that process gave rise to persons, it does not follow that the original principles were laid down by a Person (God). There might be a God, but that God is or was a Person is an unwarranted assumption. And a grossly arrogant one.
2006-06-29 17:45:54
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answered by brucebirdfield 4
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Sorry, but God himself is an invention of mankind. It makes all the wonderful things in the universe seem easier to comprehend. Those who believe god created us and the universe are somewhat misguided. Mankinds belief in God will only lead us down the wrong path as it has done so many times before!
2006-07-11 13:58:22
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answered by George N 1
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You can not think that simple my friend. If you say there must be a god who created us all simply due to the fact that there is an inventor for every invention then who created god? And for that matter who created the creator of god? It's an endless chain.
2006-07-11 12:25:52
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answered by AndrewL 3
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