Does being black justify or encourage violence and greed? Total stranger is threatening my life unless I $?

Question

I got in a minor car fender bender - my wife was driving. She dented the rear fender of this guys total piece of crap 1982 Buick LeSabre, but it was our fault and we felt we should make it right. He immediately started screaming, yelling, threatening to 'beat the hell out of my wife' etc. I asked her to lock herself in the car, and told him to please relax, we can call the cops, insurance, or I can just give him cash for the dent. He refuses cops & insurance, wants cash. I agree he goes and gets an estimate. $1260 for a dent. The car is worth $700. I still agree, since I told him I would pay for it. Then he increases to $2000 next day. I refuse, and he starts threatening my life. Throws a brick through my window. Leaves death threats on phone. He is a black guy, and a ghetto punk. I hate to say it, but I expected this the second I spoke to him, he radiated bad karma. Does his 'being black' somehow justify to him his abuse and greed? He calls me racist names,Im disgusted

These answers are all amazing, they cover the feelings and thoughts Ive gone thru since it occured. Friday it happened, following Friday he gives quote, and I call my lawyer (mom & dad both law profs) he says 'you committed a crime by not reporting it, but so did he and its not high priority, since he doesnt have your DL# or insurance info, and you never saw his, all you have are phone #s why, *WHY* are you considering giving this asshole *ANYTHING*? He is obviously taking you for a ride and being abusive and so on to boot. Change your phone # and forget it" I refused, feeling 1) we were at fault and so had an obligation to cover his dent (car is full of dents - only area without them if it was done) and we would like to be treated the same way, and I felt this guilt for having intruded on and ruined his night. But he IMMEDIATELY started with all the loudmouth "Boy, you gonna pay me, and pay NOW or I will make you wish you never born, you trying to rip me off, you're all the same"

I have done nothing but be polite and legit and agreed to overpay him at this point, its a week since the dent, he took that time to get to me with estimate. I agree to pay, and tell him it will take a week or so to raise that much $. The next day the real abuse and threats begin, and the raising the ammount. Also I do some net research, he has 19 criminal convictions, and owes the state a lein for *ahem* 2,800$ - the amount he finally said he required or he would 'make what was left of our lives hell' and started vandalizing our home. I cant prove it was him, cops say 'cant fingerprint a brick its all circumstantial' when I ask about this and say I can file report if I want but it wont matter until he does something significant they can charge him with. I changed phone #, told him he can have 1300, original amount but only if he signs waiver and accepts that day. He refuses, claims head gasket blew caused by the dent, wants more $. I feel racist for thinking 'typical, if he was

some WASP in a BMW it would have been at least a insurance deal, probably no death threats. I feel racist because I thought "oh, he is acting in exactly the way I expected the second I saw him, and he is reinforcing the negative images of young black men in Oakland today. At the same time I ask myself (and friends) "Am I racist because I thought 'here comes trouble' the first 5 seconds of this event, and he has just PROVED and totally, unashamedly the worst sterotypes without apparent care that he is demonstrating a sort of parody of a culture - black males in America - which is under seige from its own negative self image (Rap emphasis on guns, sex and drugs) and the society which (as I am doing with revulsion for my reaction and the reasons he is so blatently providing) would prefer to never have to deal with this issue. After all, prison is almost a guarantee, and unemployment in Oakland age 18-35 black male is 50-80%. I see this issue and think "No wonder I'd never hire this"

Answer 1

any fender bender over 400.00 has to be reported, so ya'll committed two crimes in this.

1) not reporting it.
2) him for threating bodily harm.

I would report the accident, and report the threat.
I bet his "estimate" goes down.

Being anything does not justify anything, that results in verbal threats and money sniffing.

Answer 2

well, since you obviously ignored the letter of the law and did not call the cops, this is a matter for the law still. i would call the police, even at this late date and make a report. make it TRUTHFUL and admit your wifes wrongdoing, but since this was an "agreed upon" situation, she should not face any sort of fines, etc...
i would suggest that since the person did NOT want the police contacted in the begining that he/she has a a) warrant, b) no insurance(if your state required and most do or c) some kind of issue with a license or registration. Therefore they are trying to AVOID the law to begin with. The fact that you are now getting threats from this person and NOT their insurance suggests something fishy. I would report this at once to both the law and your insurance. They will correct the issue. You should have no more problems.
The race of this individual is of no consiquence, only their actions and they are a blight on WHATEVER race they are, and upon the whole of human exsistance. Think not of what color skin they have, but of the fact that you are thinking of it and not about them as an individual. The greatest travesty of this situation is that you have to break it down to black and white, not right and wrong.
i work in law enforcement, and see all manner of idiots, all colors and nationality, no race has the market, trust me, and remember, by NOT contacting the law, you too violated the law.... remember that one....

Answer 3

Call the cops. and your insurance co. Do it NOW.
It has nothing to do with skin color, just greed.
Offer to buy the car for $700.
Never meet alone.
Never carry cash.
Call the cops.
If you make any payment, get a money order,
NOT a personal check.
Call the cops.
Write down everything as you remember it now, because it may be hard to remember in court later.
Threatening you and/or you wife is assault. It is against the law.
Call the cops.
Even if YOU were at fault, most states require all drivers to have proof of insurance and a valid drivers license. Did you see ether of those from him?

Call the cops.
I'll bet he has neither.
He may have stopped in front of your wife as a scam.
Do you at least have the license number from his car?
Insist that this be handled by the ins. co. tell him you are broke, but they have the big bucks. His greed will show up.
Call the cops.
Did I mention that you should Call the cops. and your insurance co. Do it NOW.? Really. do not have anything more to do with this guy.
Call the cops.

Answer 4

That's a scarey situation, the guy obviously is extorting money from you. Definately call the cops immediately & the insurance company.. his refusal of the "right" way to handle the situation indicates he isn't "right" in the head or has a police record, no insurance of his own or something else is off.. If you're wife was alone, that can be very intimidating situation.. make sure she has a cell phone on her.

I carry a camera in my truck for just such occasions, if God forbid i'm in an accident, i take a picture of the license plate(s), the person(s) involved, and the damaged vehicles.. It's indisputable evidence. document everything, conversations, keep copies of his estimates, on and on.. don't let him bend you over. Report his threats.

There's no justification for his actions... he obviously has too much time on his hands and he's pissed at the world for his situation..

Answer 5

So, in a nutshell....your' wife hit his car, for some unknown reason you didn't call the cops and now he is threatening you and vandalizing your' home. About right?
1. Stop being intimidated. Stand up for yourself and your' wife.
2. Report it to your' insurance company. It's just foolish to allow this to go on.
3. If the police will do nothing without proof, position a couple of camcorders on your' property and get him vandalizing your' home on tape. That will be all the proof they need.
4. Speak up! The police officer has a boss. The boss has a boss and so on. March right on up the chain of command until you get results.
If you do nothing and go along with what this guy wants, he will see you as a target and things will only get worse.
Good luck to you.

Answer 6

Dude --

I'm going to tell you about when I had to confront the ideas I was raised with. I was working as a waitress in college, and most of my coworkers were extremely racist against black people -- even my black coworkers. No one wanted to take a table that wasn't white. I always volunteered. All I could think was, "wow, how would I feel if every time I ate out, my waiter approached me with the attitude that I wasn't going to tip?" I went out of my way to take those tables & to give them excellent service.

One day I waited on a black family & when I went to clear the table, there was no money in sight -- for the bill OR a tip. I almost started crying because I thought, "I don't want them to be right." I picked up a couple of plates & found the money for the tab & for a nealry 30% tip, under a plate. Then I felt ashamed -- had I been expecting it to happen somehow?

I waitressed for 2 years in college. I was never ONCE stiffed by a black customer. In fact, they typically tipped me MUCH more than my average tip. One time I waited on a girls' soccer team that was all black, from inner city Houston. NO one wanted that table. I waited on them & apologized that my computer added the tip in because of the number of people, asked the coach if he wanted me to have the manager take it off. He said no & gave me a $20 bill in addition to the 18% gratuity.

I got stiffed for a tip lots of times by white customers -- white business men at lunch & church people on Sunday afternoons are the ABSOLUTE WORST customers (I am a Christian & ashamed to say this).

The point is, you need to separate behavior from race. Check your expectations based on race. This guy's disgusting behavior has nothing to do with his race, and everything to do with the fact that he is a bad PERSON, period. And in the future, think about the fact that you will very often get the response you expect, because people aren't stupid.

Answer 7

You aren't racist if you are profiling him in the appropriate category. He fits the mold, that's their MO. All blacks aren't thugs, but keep in mind how they had to grow up. Understand how they behave is from their upbringing. Don't hang around people you do not match up to. I don't hang with total black gangs, because they are loud, and the ones who get in trouble usually have no courtesy toward other races, they won't see eye to eye for some reason. It's their way or no way, period. I don't do business with that kind of person. And it doesn't matter to me what the person looks like, as long as that's the way they act, that's enough for me to know business with them is a no no. As far as threatening you, remember they're loud. IF you called him on it, who knows he might have peed on himself. Crack his a** on the side of the head and he'd sing a different tune. Just mirror what he's putting out. He wants to be unreasonable, you be unreasonable, he wants to get in your face, you get in his face. Agree to take the car to a shop of your choosing, not his. See if the cost is the same. Best thing is to see if he has insurance. If he doesn't, oh well on getting money from you. He cannot drive without insurance. Does he have any warrants? If he is on parole, you can report him to his parole officer and I guarantee you, he'll be back inside in a flash. About how old is he? If he's young enough, go to his parents and tell them what happened and what you are willing to do, but also what type of behavbior you're dealing with. Threatening you and your wife? whoa. Driving a vehicle he's probably breaking some law there. Just spin the wheel, you'll land on something that will put this guy in his place. Remember, I'm not telling you to commit any type of violence. That's always been your decision. I don't take to kindly to threats from anyone. Sue his a** for verbal battery on your wife. Make s**t up. Deal with it. Drag your a** on that money and see when his deadline is for paying his bill. No carrier will pay that amount on repairs. He'd have to salvage the title if he wanted to keep the car, but no insurance company would pay that much money to repair his particular car. That's as good as Gospel. They will not. He needs to be happy that you are willing to pay him off. Let him know it goes your way, not his; like you should have been with him from jump street.

Answer 8

I would take him a court like you see on tv... try judge mathis! he knows how "those guys" are! Stereotyping might be a bad thing some people say, but its people like him that make it true! And I guarantee if you gave him that much money, 2 grand or so, all he would do is put 24 inch rims on that piece of crap! Guys here take their grandma's old buicks and caddy's and put big rims on them that cost more than the POS is worth! How stupid can people be? He's a perfect example! Good luck though!

Answer 9

Many urban blacks do that (stop fast so you hit them in the rear with your car). They do it to make money. That's why he didn't want you to call the police or insurance. Tell the police about the threats. Set up a video camera,and tape recorder, and record his threats. If you are man enough, buy a shotgun, and load it double 0 buck shot, and blow his butt away if he tries to harm you..

Tell your insurance about the accident (if you have insurance).

what ever you do, don't be a panzy, and pay this idiot anything. It will encourage him to only do it again

Answer 10

Ok First way way to long...

Second, if he refused the cops I would have then insisted upon it because there is a reason he didn't want them there. No license, No insurance or registration, some reason. Maybe he had a warrent for his arrest who knows.

BUT I would Now call the cops and tell them what has been going on.

Answer 11

Report the accident, and start documenting the threats, taping them or saving the voice mail if possible, and sue him for harrassment, also get a personal protection order, and tell him to pretty much, get screwed about the money for the car. That has gone way too far!! Good Luck!!