question for the bush haters?

Question

Believe it or not, some liberals are STILL claiming that 'Bush lied', and 'Bush faked intelligence reports..',, yada yada yada....

This is a question for the ones who still think that.



How do you explain these quotes and time frame of the quotes:

1----. "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

---- kennedy has known for YEARS, that would be before Bush was in office.

2---- "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

----This was before Bush was in office, and a year after Clinton Bombed Iraq.

3---- "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

----over the course of 11 years (self explanatory)

PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ME CRAP ABOUT HOW THERE ARE WEAPONS FROM BEFORE THE GULF WAR.

LOOK AT THE DATES OF THESE STATEMENTS!!!

Answer 1

Thanks for showing everyone this. It shows that libs are just making up lies.

Answer 2

I agree with the previous comment. This kinda of talk divides the population up into two camps - liberals and republicans!

I'm a bush-hater but then I don't always support the choices the democratic party makes, either, nor do I think that the republican party is completely evil!

Both parties were wrong to believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction at the time. He may have done but those days seem long past and if he had dismantled them or disposed of them in some way, prior to the invasion, which seems like a pretty stupid thing to do, I'm quite sure that a somebody with knowledge of this would have come foward. The US would probably pay an awful lot of money for this information.

Billion of US dollars have been spent on the invasion, money that could have been put to better use and thousands of US soldiers have been killed in the process.

Ask yourself these questions; what has the US gained from this war!

Over 6,000 people died in 9/11! Does it make much sense to kill 2,500 more Americans and counting in a country which had nothing to do with 9/11 in the first place??

Is America a safer place to live because we invaded Iraq? Have we not learnt anything from Israel.

The fact that these questions go unnoticed demonstrates the power of the Republican spin machine.

Answer 3

I don't support anyone who makes money from tax-dollars; politicians, cops, welfare recipients...but the reasons for taking Saddam out were good ones. The exit strategy argument is good too, b/c we never had one. But people like Jelly-Sac Moore need to realize that an administration with some nuts would have really shook things up. I think we'd have been better off just telling the world after 9/11 "you filthy whores just bit the hand that feeds, we want bin Laden's head tomorrow, or we will stop feeding you degenerates". Oh, and I would have just melted Iraq and forced the knob-gobbling tree huggers to deal with the fact that we were drilling our own oil in America, building hundreds of high polluting "ugly" refineries all over the country (I know, I know, that might create jobs and shift the voter base) and if anyone "feels" the little critters and flowers would be affected by all the "ugly black smoke" I'd tell them to come up with something better. Now. Oh, and I'd dig a huge trench along the Mexican border and fill it with starving, HIV-positive crackheads. Cheaper and more effective than a fence, and keeps the prison population down. All politicians are sluts to something. LBJ said it best, "promise them the world, give them nothing, and they'll vote democrat everytime."

Answer 4

wow... this is like the 100th time I've seen this question...

just because Democrats say one thing, doesn't mean Bush didn't do any of those things you said... one does not mean the other....

also, the Democrats clearly didn't feel that they had enough evidence for an invasion, even though they thought it may be happening... clearly Bush didn't have enough either...

but I also noticed a list of quotes that someone posted on here from when Clinton invaded kosovo and Somalia from the major Republican leaders... it was almost word for word what Democrats are saying now about Iraq... funny how you guys change your tunes too... I guess you were the "cowards" (as you guys like to say) 10 years ago...

Answer 5

They were wrong also.

My main problem is the lack of an exit strategy from the beginning. Did Bush think there would be some huge group hug in Iraq and they would all get along? At the very start of the war I was talking to a friend of mine who is very conservative and is a lt. col in the Army. He was in Desert Storm and also taught at West Point. We both agreed that taking out Saddam would be a good thing but the problem is how do we get out. He said these things usually take about 10 years before there is complete withdraw. He was also against the war for that very reason. I would have much rather seen us taking out Al-Qaida instead of us spending our resources rebuilding Iraq.

Answer 6

I am a republican, but first of all I would like to consider myself an educated American. Here are some stark truths......
The condemnation that the administration stated about Saddam was missing 3 important words......"With Our Help". Every crime he committed was supported by us we put him in power and made sure to keep him there. Your point that democrats made such statements means nothing because I can provide hypocritical statements republicans have made. If you want to help America and Americans then stop doing what FOX News does so well and help divide the country into left and right...conservative and liberal. Bottom line when you actually talk to hard working Americans(Democrat or Republican) is that they don't want to be lied to by either political party. They are sick or a corporate media that helps protect these lies and manufacture consent of opinion. You like quotes.......
"Naturally the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the governments bidding....simply tell them they are being attacked and chastised the left for being unpatriotic...it works the same in every country"
Herman Georing - Hitlers Reich Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials.

Answer 7

So here's the deal. We know that all of these claims are false. We can agree on that I assume.

Now where did everything go wrong?

Bush, and Cheney wanted to go to war in Iraq. There are many reason why they wanted to go to war. I don't believe the wanted to do it for evil reasons, but they wanted to do it.

Before they could go to war they needed evidence. I don't believe they made anything up either. They just didn't care were the information came from.

I do believe this is a form of lying. He wasn't honest to himself or to us.

A very good movie that explains this extremely will is "The Power of Nightmares." Also there was a story on Frontline a few weeks back that was also very good.

Answer 8

I'm from Massachusetts & am embarrassed that Kennedy & Kerry both flaming liberals are elected term after term as if they owned the position. They are big fat power hungry hogs who cannot imagine life w/o power & corruption that is all they know or why else stay in office so long.

Both are FAILING past presidential candidates ( along with 5'5" Mike Dukasis). They all suck & are losers...

Given the poor choices between W and Kerry it wasn't even a close decision to me.

These are tough times we live in & we need leaders who can face the issues now before they get any worse.

Answer 9

I think Bush went too far in his hunt for weapons of mass destuction. It is now proven that Iraq had none yet thousands had to die before this could be said.
Bush has blood on his hands and will go down in history as one of the United State's most unpopular and hated presidents. Blame not just him but the members of his party who helps him make the decisions he does. Just thank God he cannot be illegally voted into office again.

Answer 10

As a Bush supporter, I have to butt in here and suggest that they can't answer that, except to whine about how all those people were lied to by Bush, no matter the dates on those quotes.

Then they'll suggest that we gave weapons to Saddamn in the first place, that he was our buddy back when Reagan was around. They have apparently forgotten about Ayatollah Khomeini.

I'm also looking forward to counting up the amount of times the word "oil" comes up in the answers.

Answer 11

Was the CIA intelligence to make the case for invasion cooked? There's no doubt about it, and you can go on quoting anyone you want. The meeting records show that Cheney did what no other VP in history has done and personlly went to CIA HQ and pressured the CIA agenets working on Iraq to come up with reason to support their invasion plan.