Do you also see people falling for the propaganda again?

Question

Recent story was published giving details about the Bush administration having access to financial transactions.

Here r the facts (source PBS The Newshour and BBC):
Bush admin was given access to the entire financial database. Bush admin claims they only 'looked' at international transactions. They did NOT get the required judge approval to investigate these records; therefore, broke US privacy laws.

Once again, all they had to do was get the necessary approval and this wouldn't be such an issue. AND ONCE AGAIN, the Bush admin. thinks it is above the law.

Now, I think this story is highly news worthy because I would like to know when privacy laws r being violated and I also would like to know every instance that Bush thinks he is above the law.

Bush has countered this by bombarding Fox News and talk radio with stories attacking the news agency that published this story stating. 'they weakened our country.. war on terror"

NO!!

Bush weakened our country by breaking the law AGAIN!

madbald - international goes both ways...meaning international transactions between American citizens and persons in other countries. Actually that is irrelevant because they were given the entire database which included domestic trans. They only 'claim' they looked at only international. Pt is the LAW REQUIRES judge approval for this kind of action and access.

Answer 1

It is indeed a sad commentary on the 'average' US citizen .. and the Congress ... that no one is raising red flags!!! ... The citizenry is more interested in who is winning on some idiotic reality tv show. and the Congress is more worried about getting re-elected and keeping their cush-jobs than they are in preserving the standards of freedom that this country was built on and that, supposedly, our military men and women have fought for and are fighting and dying for. But it seems all we get is rhetoric and no action.

Answer 2

Why would they need approval for international financial transactions? Note the word 'international'. Other people have access to it, otherwise it wouldn't exist. I feel good that the FBI, CIA and other law enforcement and security personnel who care if we get bombed or attacked again can look at it. The people who hold these records are not looking for terrorists and our Government is not looking at it to find petty criminal activity. It would not hold up in a court of law. I don't care if they break those privacy laws to find terrorists myself. That's just my opinion. I think our security agencies should see everything that comes in and out, in any form, to and from our country to include financial transactions and communications in order to see if there is any funding that leads them to terrorist cells within our country. It may mean saving a few extra thousand lives.
Did you ever wonder how the terrorist cell was found out in Canada?
Here's something else to think about. The terroists don't play by the rules. If we did all the time, they would know how to skirt through our security. It would be easy for them. They wold know what we can't look at. President Grant (former General Grant of Civil War Fame) created the first anti-terrorist group in the U.S. to stop the KKK as much as they could. That means posing as one of them to catch them or breaking a few other laws. OMG they broke a law! Forget about the KKK, arrest the anti-terrorist group! I'm sure the BBC didn't care much about that.

Answer 3

So answer this, if you saw you neighbor drinking, then he gets into a car and drives away. Are you going to report him? Because if you say yes, then you are doing exactly what the Bush admin., is trying to do. Prevent further death and destruction (world wide.) If you say, no, well than you are a hypocrite, you are allowing some one to do something illegal, just because you don't feel its anyone else's business? And against what is or isn't moral? If you are innocent of wrong doing, then you should have no problem being looked at. And they are not looking at almost 300 million US citizens, just ones of interest.

Kind of an odd analogy, but think about it for a minute.

Answer 4

The actions of not only president bush, but virtually all politicians, is demonstrative of the fact that we are actually living in an authoritarian police state. So yes the propaganda is working exceptionally well, people are still running saying how wonderful it is to live in a free country, how we need to defend our freedom, failing to see the world around them for what it is a collection socialist nations trying to maintain the facade that they are trying to do whats best for us, all the while expanding their control over the populace.

Answer 5

the only ones who need to worry are the ones with something to hide. Check my records any day and listen to my boring phone conversations as long as you listen to habib's phone call to blow up a building somewhere I'm good.