IS the NewYork times guilty of treason and why.?

Question

next they will print a story about tracking terrorists vehicles that have on-star. THEY are giving away another secret we use to hunt terrorists .MAYBE they write a story aboout how we have people growing long beards and facial hair to infultrate terror cells WOW.
LETS forget for a minute how obvious electrnoic tracking is every police drama on t.v tracks the credit card purchase so criminals pay with cash instead lol.DO not let bank robers know instead of dye packs they are now putting tracking devices in the bank robbers stolen money packs.WHAT is obvious is bushes ignorance to common pratices .IF the press goes so does america .I will personaly take up arms to defend the constitution if required .

Answer 1

karl rove leaked a cia agent and your not angry, but your angry about a ny times story that tells us what we already know? misplaced anger or ignorance. i say both.

Answer 2

The troubling part of both question and answers is that you set up a strawman for them to attack, meaning your question implies that news papers are assisting terrorist organizations. hence treason.....

That is misleading and not the real issue at heart. The real issue is that the government tracks everyone.

This is the issue at heart the right of people to privacy, versus the right of government to collect infromation without probal cause for an infinite amount of time.

Why infinite because you can not get a surrender or peace treaty against the war on terror, because terror is a tatic not a nation state.

The questinon again remains if the media does not report on the government and its potential deminising of the 4th amendment rights along with the Superme Courts conclusion that privacy is implicit.
At what point does the press remain quite, the press has an obligation to provide people with facts, so they can choose thier leaders or hold them accountable, the press is the fourth estate....without them how can we protect our freedoms...


At what point does america stop being the democracy and begin to look like the countries invade to give freedom too.

The question is not freedom of the press but the obligation of the New papers to tell, warn, alert, save, rally, inform the people that there is a serious danger looming not from terrorist but from our own government.

Again the real question is shouldn't newspaper do thier job and serve the people when government attempts to overreach it power especially in a perpetual war with no end.

The president swore an oath to uphold the constitution...he has failed.

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Besides there was always the court system for supeonas, warrants there are even secret courts.....this is just too ridculous on the governments part.

More importantly the actions taken by the government may be illegal, and they don't want that out would they

Answer 3

I find it interesting that the word treason and traitor is being thrown around very liberally these days. The blond bombshell auther called John Murtha a traitor and the reason soliders invented fragging. All of that is old news but do we really understand what treason is ? I think it's absurd to lable the newspaper guilty of treason and negligant on the part of the adminstration to even imply such ridiculous nonsense. It seems every time the adminstration gets caught and exposed to the public for something questionable they revert back to the fear inspiring tatic or finger pointing. They make it sound like there is a terrorist on every block but turn around and offer up the UAE deal. They call the New York Times treasonous but cut the homeland security budget to New York by 40%. If you recall New York was the city that took the goverment to task over the UAE deal. Freedom of the press is part of what makes America great liberal or conservative, running a story of concern to the public isn't treason it's America. This Adminstration has taken a cue from McCarthy and praticed a type of fear based finger pointing and evasion of the issue. More importantly it seems someone in the White House inner circle is concerned enough to leak this infromation to the press. I don't think this has anything to do with national security I think this is more of the Adminstration's commitment to secrecy. I think this is more of the Adminstration's attempt at expanding the powers of executive goverment illegally. I think Mr. Bush throws out that word treason to deflect from a very serious issue of unethical pratices by this adminstration. We have a right to know how the war on terror is being fought and we have a right to know there is some measure of accountability and perservation of our freedoms. We also liberal or conservative should preserve the right of free press and this adminstration has repeatedly tried to manipulate that and they continue that with labeling this paper treasonous. It's absurd. Another writer referred to Karl Rove bugging his own office with intent to blame his opponent. I won't be the least surprised if that tatic isn't being used by this adminstration. The poloraztion between parties is very intense under Mr. Bush and they don't seem to be able to find any common ground. I'm sure labeling a liberal paper treasonous doesn't help. Mr. Bush was given and opprotunity to convince the times not to run the story no credible arguement to national security was made, so they ran it. If he feels that strongly then he needs to make a credible arguement to the Times before they run the story. The same is true of the warrentless wiretapping. He couldn't offer up a credible arguement the freedom of the press lives.

Answer 4

NO! Freedom of the press is written into the Constitution as part of the check on just such a President as GW Bush.
Did you read or hear the additional news that the appropriate Committee in Congress was not advised of this program until two weeks ago, after the White House realized the story was going to be published.
President Bush is walking all over the Constitution and trying to hide behind a wall of secrecy. And, it is not the Reporter that leaked the story, it is an Executive Department Employee who leaked the information to the Press.
If anyone in this situation is an outlaw, it is the President. He is the one that has trust issues.
Also, there is a pattern of secret operation being leaked to the press during Bush's time in Office. How many of these leaks are directed leaks like the information that Libby leaked about the Valery Plame outing.
The Democrats have been blocked from attending to their job of checks and balances which is their Constitutional duty as the opposition party.
Also, the President has taken it upon himself to use extra-Constitutional means to stifle opposition to his paranoid fascination with secret programs and his inability to tolerate any opposition.
Guantanamo style force feeding is not what the Framers of the Constitution had in mind when they created our Government. Bush has gone to far again with his love of secrecy and his inability to trust anyone.

Answer 5

the problem is that the manhattan cases has on no account given a 2d thought on what they submit and is in elementary terms prepared on merchandising newspapers. Pentagon Papers all people? advantageous terrorist fund monitoring is not any huge secret yet publishing the proper factors on the way all of it works is irresponsible journalism and incredibly disloyal. Even manhattan's very own has the same opinion (see Rep. Peter King's reaction). Proving treason would be an exceedingly puzzling activity however the newspaper might desire to truly might desire to respond to for this... wager the reminiscence of 9/11 has diminished of their minds. So chuffed it wasn't my Washington submit - as a regulation pupil and intern with a considerable information outlet i'm so disillusioned.

Answer 6

Now you wanna talk treason okay let's talk Lying the nation into a war and "fixing the facts around the policy", leaking of a CIA operative, oh how about selling steel to the nazi war machine during WW II , um let's see letting OSB get away at torra borra, evesdropping it turns out on domestic phone calls of U.S. citizens, oh anybody found that missing 9 billion dollars yet? and it really treason i guess but shooting your friend in the face and going back to eat steak while he's in the hospital is kinda low, and can we really trust this bunch Karl Rove once bugged his own office so he could blame his canidates oppenent and if it hadn't been for a smart reporter( wonder why these guys hate the press?) he'd have gotten away with it. Hey here you go NY Times gets pulitzer and Cheney is outraged anybody outraged about a Director of CIA getting Medal of Freedom for helping decieve Congress and the public?

Answer 7

No. It's simple they are protected by the 1st Amendment. If Gonzales and crew try to overturn the first Amendment, then the terrorists have truly, truly won, because America will no longer be America.

Oh, and stories are vetted for national security purposes. The phone story was held for more than a year out of respect for national security.

Answer 8

Where was the anger when it was leaked that the United States was wiring tapping her own civilians? That was a way to "track terrorists" was it not? If anybody is guilty of treason in this argument of yours, it is the person who leaked the story. The free press is not guilty of anything except doing it's job.

Answer 9

The best analogy I have heard yet is a cartoon (which I can't find) that shows the a copy of the NY Times with the headline "DDay in 3 Days" - how WWII may not have ended if the NY Times had disclosed govt secrets back then. Just shows who's side they're really on - I cancelled my subscription the same day.

Answer 10

The Times got ahold of some leaked information and they printed it, as they are free to do. (See First Amendment) Should they have killed the story to protect national interests? Maybe. But the guilt rests with the person who leaked the information in the first place. THAT person is a security risk and THEY should pay a heavy price!

Answer 11

Whoever leaked it to the press needs to be charged with treason and well the nyt, They are garbage for knowingly putting Our National Security on the line! Back in the day WW11, They all would have been charged!