The Geneva Convention only afford protection to designated and uniformed troops belonging to the military or and organized militia of a recognized member nation. Some nitwit caught planting an IED on the side of a road doesn't fall under this description and so are able to be taken as prisoners of war without protection. That's it.
Why do people in the U.S. try to pretend that Islamic Terrorists should be given the same rights as recognized members of the military of a nation? Is this really so hard to understand?
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm
2006-06-26
07:01:57
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"david c" ... it's been 10 hours and I just saw your comment, I doubt you'll ever see this because libs don't usually have that long an attention span but ...
"Lying" about war aside, the United Nations doesn't have anything to do with the U.S. declaring war on anybody and acting on that declaration. The U.S. is a sovereign nation that can make war with anybody it wants to at any time. It's none of the U.N.'s business.
Man, there sure is A LOT of stuff that libs are not educated about.
2006-06-26
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"sebekhoteph" ... terrorists still don't fall under the Geneva Convention. Just because the U.S. has labeled it a "War On Terror" doesn't automatically afford the status of enemy combatant upon Islamic Terrorists. To fall under the wording of the Convention, the person must be representing a specific nation, not a cause, in defense of their country. The Islamic Terrorists clearly don't fall in this group.
2006-06-26
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Because certain people on the Left in this country want Bush to fail and if that means bringing this country down to, then oh well.
2006-06-26 07:07:37
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answered by 3rd parties for REAL CHANGE 5
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The problem with this argument is the limit in the scope of your information.
Meaning, is this question about the right to torture or the right to be tried in a court, and to be charged.
Your basically arguing what the white house talking points say. the problem is you assume that all the people being held are Islamic terrorist.
if you follow the news you know that very quietly they are releasing prisoners from our special jails.
Why would we let terrorist out you ask? As an example, many of the prisoners in Gitmo were sold to the American by Afghan warlords. The US paid by the head for Tali Ban.
Many of whom had no association with the Taliban but were instead members of rival tribes, farmers forced to fight, and anyone who they could sell to America. You think warlords cared.
You can dismiss my argument but the fact remains even the Supreme Court is not in line with your thinking/opinions.
2006-06-26 14:33:01
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answered by nefariousx 6
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The problem is that all these "Terrorist" are not put on trial, so by that account the government could torture anyone. That is the problem that I see with this issue. I think if there is a direct threat to the U.S. the President should be able to authorize the use of torture, but just to get info off inmates I'm sure would prove to have little value because if you torture people long enough they will tell you they killed Kennedy, that doesn't make it true. Ask John McCain (R) he will tell you the same thing.
2006-06-26 14:19:14
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answered by DEEJay 4
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Most people do, it's just a lot of the, panty waste, whining, ACLU butt kissing, dope smoking, tree hugging, liberals, who have a problem grasping a simple concept.
They figure give them rights under the Geneva convention, and that will start the process of us showing them that we mean them no harm, and then maybe we can befriend them and find out what we, as freedom loving, peace loving, Americans, have done to make these radical Islamists, idiotic, lunatics, hate us.
I do agree with the liberals that we shouldn't keep detaining all of these guys. However, my solution is if we find substantial evidence they are terrorist, execute the bastards.
That of course, is just my humble opinion.
2006-06-26 14:09:47
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answered by tsmitha1 3
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Terrorists should not fall under geneva convention. Unfortunately, its we who declared a "war" on terror. And we are (supposed to) follow Geneva convention.
Any enemy combatant caught during a "WAR" is afforded geneva convention rights by its captor. So, if we capture those Talibans, we are required to offer them Geneva convention rights.
It would be so much simpler, if we dont call this a "WAR", call those terrorists just that - terrorists and criminals, and quickly prosecute them as criminals for their crime - terrorism, mass murder, killing innocent etc.
2006-06-26 16:10:50
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answered by sebekhoteph 3
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Because many people just dont understand much about the Geneva Conventions at all. They hear about a line or two out of it, and think they understand it in its entirety. Most people with prior military service understand it better than those that have never served.
2006-06-26 14:06:04
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answered by jack f 7
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These same people who want to give terrorists Geneva convention rights are also giving credance to the terrorists ! In so doing, they are actively working for the terrorists whether they realize it or not. Oh how I long for the days of the public stocks and rotten fruit throwers !
2006-06-26 14:12:01
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answered by S.A.M. Gunner 7212 6
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I thought one of the most telling things that happened is that one of the first things the American administration did was to ‘persuade’the Iraqi Governing Council to totally restructure Iraq’s economy: to allow one hundred per cent foreign ownership; to privatise most parts of the economy, apart from the oil, and permit one hundred per cent repatriation of profits. But this was in fact totally illegal. I have read stories from people who have spoken to the US Treasury, and the US Commerce Department and they say that the US knows that it’s illegal but what they say is that they’re doing it in the best interests of the Iraqi people. Even Blair’s Attorney General said that what they are doing is illegal under the Hague Regulations of 1907, The Geneva Convention and so on …
We know that this is a lie, the Iraqi people want us out!
The Iraqi people are not by definition "Islamic terrorists" too by the way. Your semantics are foolish and your argument is bunk.
2006-06-26 14:19:52
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answered by Anonymous
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They are dumber than dirt and have not rea the whole Geneva
Convention. Some of the people in the US have been brainwashed by the communist organizations that have taken over the courts and the dimocRATic party.
2006-06-26 14:08:43
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answered by Vagabond5879 7
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does lying about a war and going against the united nations, as well as invading other countries (panama, grenada, iraq) fall under your geneva conventions list.
2006-06-26 14:35:40
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answered by david c 4
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