How any liberals ever gotten beat up (this is not a threat, yes I do have a point)?

Question

I won a few and lost a few, but let me tell you. I didn't learn anything from the fights I won. The fights I lost however, taught me a lot. I never got cocky or arrogant after getting beat up; I learned from how my opponent defeated me.

Why can't you do the same? You lost two elections and are cockier than ever. Here's a hint. Appeal to the average American and the swing voters. No normal person buys your conspiracies. Admit you lost and try to gain voters. The best way to gain voters is to stop saying that the average American is a moron and ALL republicans are. Just by doing that you insult 75% of the country (half of the US is repub and half of each party are what i'd call "average")

DONCORLEONE- I say that you should try to appeal to swing voters and that's asinine? Do you see why you keep losing election?

CORRECTION: Obviously I meant "Have any liberals ever gotten beat up?" Sorry.

Answer 1

Your post makes ZERO sense. You're supposed to ask questions here, not bash "libs"...

Answer 2

This analogy positively oozes irony. Just for fun, let's put the US military in the role our present questioner only they have won every fight except the last one (we won't count Korea even though that was a draw.) Now, would cocky and arrogant describe our government's attitude leading up to the invasion of Iraq? Think...cakewalk, flowers and praise for troops, oil will pay for invasion, etc... Again, the US was beat up by a guerrilla insurgency, did they learn from this defeat how to fight a guerrila insurgency?

Now, we arrive at a destination that resembles the Twilight Zone in that numbers and facts have no meaning and generalizations and ommissions are the rule. First, I am not, nor never have been a democrat, yet I will argue from their point of view. I see a lot of major problems with the democrats, but I am certain "*********" is not one of them. Next, the advice rendered is shear genius; appeal to the "average" American and to the swing voters. From this I assume he is saying Presidential politics is like a TV commercial and the goal is to get customers by appealing to their vanities, jealousies, greed, fears, emotions, etc... Wow! What a concept. I'm not even going to ask what conspiracies he is talking about and move on to the Never Never land of generalizations and made up statistics, because everyone knows that statistics add a certain authority to an argument. I'm going to make a generalization and say that the average American is...average. Morons probably make up the bottom 20% or so. The next blip on the radar is the grand daddy of all generalizations, the sweeping generalization. "ALL republicans are morons." Does this mean that the bottom 20% of Americans are republicans? No, because Bush's lowest poll rating was around 30%, so this must mean that 10% of republicans are distributed evenly among average Americans and above-average Americans. Glad we solved that problem.
Now, the author comes close enough to a grasp of the "bell curve" that I won't quibble over it. However, he has lumped a very large group of people into an imaginary 50/50 split of the US population into one of two parties. (I won't mention the freudian implications of this error as it would cause me to go check out Marx again to see if I missed anything) Anyway, in the spirit of just throwing out numbers here are a few: 40% of people of voting age don't vote. I'm not going to count independant voters like myself and make a generalization that democrats outnumber republicans by about 10%. This means that 35% of voters are democrat and 25% are republican. my plus or minus is 8 points. I like a lot of wriggle room when I play with statistics. Anyway, his numbers are no where even close to accurate.
So, what did we learn? I learned that I still hate statistics and US politics is kind of like a pepsi commercial.

Answer 3

Dear Richard M,

After reviewing the majority of your postings and answers, you take great pains to emphasize how you are a uniquie political participant, and feel the democratic party is failing you or rather needs to convince you better.

You feel you represent the dissenting middle who need to be convinced. Claiming that we need to be more appealing.

I agree with many of your points, some very well thought out. Yet if you are not convinced by now, and still need to be persuaded then perhaps yahoo answers is not the best place state your case but rather actually addressing the powers that be.

http://www.democrats.org/

I feel your energy will be better used and your views will be better served in the real world.

This is only an opinion,
sincerly
the nefarious x


PS...
comments like these lead me to think that you will agree...

"They lost two elections and are on their way to losing a third. Let them have their minor little victories here."

Answer 4

Everyone has gotten their azz kicked at some point, but for you to compare a good brawl to the presidential elections is asinine. Perhaps you could come around and see this administration for what it is, one of the most vile and corrupt the U.S. has ever seen. You need more experience.

Answer 5

Its politics no one claims defeat, if that was the case there would be no republicans with the number of times they lost.

Answer 6

I am a DEM and that's a good question that I wish political leaders of my party would figure out

Answer 7

well there you go again.liberals can not give in to the police state and until you see this you are exactly what liberals are talking about a closed minde group of christians that want america working 50 hours a week and giving 10% to the church and 25% to the government.
IN addition you pass laws that forbid freedom of choice protect your business from competition make laws and permits issued by the government harder and more costly to keep the competition out subsidise crops that do not need subsidies control the free market with price fixing and say that america is the land of oppertunity.
I would like to see these options just tell me a few of them please like can i talk about satin and budda or teach your kids about other religions or do christians have a lock on the religion thing.IS evolution acceptable teaching or only the bibles version of six days and a day of rest .IT was not till recent times we got a 5 day work week use to be 6 with a day of for worship and rest-- not for any reason then we discovered working everyday was no good for job moral.man needs at least one day off with many religions worshiping on saturdays and sundays it would be hard to have people work six days so we went to the five day work week .productivity is better happier workers and all is well with the planet again no slaves and resturants do a wopping weekend business americas youth forced to work on the weekends for the ease of americans who have gotten use to free weekends and no work .
I notice a lot of companies that employee workers who build things like workers to come in on saturday mornings for half a day .carpenters painters drywall brick layers and most of your trades like the employees to work a weekend day some even insist is this to keep them from working for themselves and are more restrictive government licenses realy needed for men to work for others do they need bonds insurance licenses inspectors or is big government doing its job and keeping people who want to get ahead from doing so .
I want you to give me an example where americans are free to work and live as they wish without so many rules and regulations for every shady independent builder that cheats people there is one with all the licenses and permits that does the same thing wrong is wrong billions of dollars went to rebuild after katrina and honest and dishonest people lined up for government money .I see that hooters managed to sell some champagne to a couple of people and this means we have a huge problem give those kind of people some help and they take advantage.
What about the 400,000 that did the right thing you are going to make it harder for people to get aide in the future to keep a couple of criminals from getting a few dollars.
Consevatives who attach so many safeguards to getting any money that by the time a dolar got to the hands of those in need it would be 10 cents and they think this is ok .We need regulated offices with checks and balances and these people that work there need to be watched to and those people need to accountfor there spending and so on and so on till none of the money reaches the needy .liberals no we have fraud and that its more exspensive to try and prevent it then it is to accept it .In business you no you are going to have dameged goods spoilage and worker slow downs this all figures into the price including theft and fraud .we all pay for it so why do we not say to our selfs there will be some problems but eliminating them makes giving people the help they need three times more costly.have stiffer penelties for people who steal taxpayers dollars is all and go after them they leave a nice trail usually .
We do not stop helping cause a few people are bad when so many good ones are helped.LESS then 5% of money given to help is gotten through fraud and we spend 60% trying to prevent it.
as long as americans are divided we will have bad leaders like clinton and bush leading america only crooks work for the government these days an honest man is run out of washington before he can make a single change .HE does not know who to pay off or how things realy get done and government needs to take a long hard look at the way it does business including the voter fraud and rigged elections.