Why do most gay people think christans hate them?

Question

Well if your gay and a christan tells you that they hate you,then they are not christan's.We christans should not hate, because they unfortanatly have'nt been reading the bible.Because it say love thy neighbor,I know you heard this statement hundreds of times.But right now I feel like expessing my feelings on this subject.We don't hate you it's just that,most of us think it's wrong because the bible says homosexuality is a sin.But who cares everybody sin's,even us straight people.And must of us straight people are sinning by hateing you.I just wanna let you know that,im christan and I don't hate yall.It's just that we beileve what god said.And that were not aginst you,we just pray for you.

Answer 1

That was very illogical and condescending towards homosexuals.

Answer 2

I had a thought. what if the human DNA could tell when the world is over populated and can make the adjustment. There is only 35 percent of the oxygen in the atmosphere and only 35 percent the nutrition in our food that there was at the turn of the 20th century, so I asked a friend,,. a non church going straight man who believes the world is over populated and does not want children, I asked what if homosexuality was an answer to population control, it's better than wars famine. And all sorts of natural disasters. He opened the bible to Romans 1:2_ and after some discussion and later that day he asked "why would god condemn gays if he created them? it doesn't make sense" I found that an amazing connection so many hypocrites at the podium can't make.I like it when things make sense and I want to clear up some confusion so listen up, this is the kind of stuff that holds up in court.There's only one place you can find any possible mention of this astronomical mistake, the only bigger mistake was the church burning controversial gospels in the second century. There is no backup or support to it anywhere else, it's not in all versions, there is no irrefutable evidence of this proposition and because of this mistake, the story has been largely misunderstood for a very long time. It is very important to keep in mind that Jesus never said a word about it, good or bad, and it's always best to follow his example and what's consistent throughout the Bible and all the versions, and remembered at the podium when speaking of Gods love for ALL his children, and if one says gays are not Gods children, one is taking an awful chance come judgment day and should remember Gods directive re judgment. These days there are acceptance issues and yes you can be gay and stay in complete abeyance of the Ten Commandments, Gods complete set of laws, nothing missing, and the complete moral code in a nutshell that says nothing about homosexuality, including those commandments pertaining to sexual morality. As long as a relationship is loving and committed it is good in God's eyes; moral and Safe, and those are the only two requirements for marriage and the rest can be extrapolated from that and Gods laws. To clarify, if it isn’t in the Ten Commandments you have to think twice if it's a sin and it still ain't.Also keep in mind there are extreme difficulties at times when translating and you can't help but loose something, i.e. an accent, an inflection . . .So in Genesis 19: there are two words in a list of sinners that the authorities could not nail, they are "Arsenekoiti" and "Malakos", so someone thought they were smart by putting in homosexual; not found in Gods laws, and look at the damage done!!! Now there are a bunch of gays believing a lie that they're sinners and the natural course of action is to forsake religion and find God's laws unworthy, and therefore, go ahead and sin perpetuating the gay stereotype of sex out of wedlock that people see when they read of sexual immorality in the bible, so now there is AIDS. I see two commandments pertaining to sexual morality, neither exclusive to gays but both apply to any lifestyle, one commandment redundant and neither mention anything other than sex outside of marriage. And more damage, our society has placed so much shame on it with so much ridicule that there are statistics on how many teens commit suicide after discovering their sexuality because it's such a disgraceful, despicable thing that you're better off dead!!! God sure has a lot of forgiving to do, how can he keep up? And further, you've heard, "I ain't crazy, I ain't seein' no shrink" Sound familiar? Perfectly Designed To Throw Shame In Getting Help Too! so the poor kids have no way out but the permanent way out! How much damage must our society destroy itself with shame? Statistic; 97% of all marriages could have been saved with a little counseling so there is more shame in getting help and less shame in getting a divorce!!! and you know how that affects our children too!So you see how people single this out and run with it and look how it got so blown out of population that people still have the crazy ides that the story is about a town full of homoes that want sex this guy who just blew in, sight unseen even, and this will look like a form of mass insanity, showing a low opinion and expectation of other people when you see the story is really about a traveler that came to a town that just didn't have the hospitality or courtesy to leave the poor sob alone to rest from his travels.Now consider this, the moral code has not changed in the time since the story, how could human behavior change so radically? How could there ever be a town of nothing but homosexuals? And at a time it seems that homosexuality was too rarely an issue?, So with the confusion over the word "yara," there are two reasons those people would be out there, one is to get to know him, the other is the whole town wanted sex with him sight unseen. The later sounds a little preposterous and the former is just human nature carried a little too far. Romans 8:28 PS Those who say homosexuality is unnatural sure don't know the birds and the bees and the rest of the animal kingdom too so don't forget they are God's creations too. And notice other cultures around the world where it is just as normal as the birds and the bees

Answer 3

Whoever told you what the scripture means has led you in the wrong direction. The bible does NOT say homosexuality is wrong.
It is plain and clear....and don't put your fearful thoughts into it, for if you do you will be worshiping a false god.

Read the bible for what it means...not for what it says.
There's a big difference.

You can sit upon your 'godly' pedestal till the cows come home.
I don't want your prayers.
I never asked you to pray for me.
Leave your conversations with God between you and Him....don't pull me into your shackles.
DO NOT PRAY FOR ME....Puhleeeezzzzz...

You DO hate. You hate all people who believe and live differently than you do.
You cover up your 'hate' with loving words like, "I'll pray for you"....or, "I hate the sin...but love the sinner".
Your question 'sounds' like you are coming from a loving place, but you really aren't.
What other people do is NONE of your business...yet you still have to impose your fearful beliefs on people who aren't bothering you.

Read your bible ON YOUR OWN, without someone else telling you what it means.
Study your bible ON YOUR OWN...without someone else telling you what it means.
Think for yourself instead of believing what someone else tells you to think.

No....I don't believe you are coming from a loving place with your question..
If you were, you would realize that none of this is any your business and you wouldn't have asked the question.

No...you are just as hateful as the others....probably worse because you sugar-coat it. That's a lie in itself.

It's called "hate..with sugary frosting on top".

Answer 4

I'm glad you made your position known. If gay people get any crap for being gay, its usually people who feel they know what god wants, or those most passionate about their religion. People who dont believe in god dont have any reason to think homo-ness is wrong, tho some will always pass judgment. "Its gross" or "its morally wrong" seems to be the only thing they are able to come up with. Basically, our strongest opposition comes from the religious right. The bible is as good as toilet paper to most of the people in this world just because it dose not accurately represent what god really wants. It was written by man! Not god. Therefore its subject to interpretation (straight or gay). "Man shall not lie with man" was in reference to war captors being sodomized as punishment or humiliation, as least in my interpretation. Not because two men loving each other is wrong. Its not. If god didn't want gay people, then he wouldn't have made them. The bible was written in a time before government as a means to control the masses. I'm glad to know you are an ally and know that we are yours as well. B)

Answer 5

Religions call homosexuality a sin. Sin is a religious symbol for what is wrong. So religions think homosexuality is wrong, and they expect homosexuals not to take their homosexuality into practice. Now, homosexuals are not interested in heterosexual sex (which is, by the way a LEGAL right they have). And religions expect them not to practice sex the way gays want to, even though doing so they would be hurting no one. So, wouldn't you agree that religions (as institutions) do hate homosexuals, even though you as a religious person do not?

Answer 6

There are "christians" who are in power who are trying to single out a class of citizens, gays and lesbians, and exclude them from rights all other citizens enjoy freely. When you allow these people to trample on the spirit of the constitution because your religion asks you to act in ways that further procreation and grow your religion, that is un-American.

If you allow politicians to divide this country using bogus scare campaign of "defense of marriage" you are contributing to the hatred of gay and lesbian citizens in this country and allowing injustice. You become part of the problem. I am a christian, straight married woman, and I think heterosexuals taking marriage lightly is what is making a marriage a mockery. If anything people who fight against outrageous bigotry to gain the same rights you have to marry, actually boosts the cache of matrimony. My marriage isn't threatened if gays and lesbians get to get married.

You are free to be observant of your religious beliefs and not enter into a homosexual relationship. Your church, regardless of marriage laws, will always be free not to recognize certain marriages just as the Catholic church doesn't marry non-catholics or divorced people.

Religious scholars disagree whether or not homosexuality is really sin or in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, being really about raping/molesting foreign visitors.

Gay people I know do not hate Christians. Many of them are Christians themselves or at the very least act like a christian should. Most gays I know were raised by strict christian households.

The bible features Jesus fighting against hypocracy and greed, but I don't see christians in this country paying any mind to that, instead they focus using their religion as a way to exclude groups of law abiding adults from entering into civil contracts.

Reverand Martin Luther King Jr. stated in his writings that it is immoral to pass laws on one group that you yourself would not live under. You would not stand for a law that told you that you could not marry, then why would you have your government do so to another law abiding citizen?

Jesus says love thy neighbor, and denying them civil rights you enjoy is hardly an expression of love. He didn't say "don't hate your neighbor" he said "love them."

Peace & Justice.

Answer 7

Unfortunately, this "we" you speak of is not truly representative of the majority of Christians. I have met 3 Christians in my entire life who truly grasp the concept, like you, of embracing "sinners" and hating sin. 3. That's going to church every week for 17 years, camps, conventions - 3 people. So, yes, it is generalizing to say that Christians hate gays, but it is also generalizing to say they don't, and when you've been told that you're going to Hell enough times for something you know you can't help, you start to tune out anyone who says they want to talk to you about Jesus.

"Jesus? The one that hates me because I like girls? No thanks."

We're human, too, despite common belief, and I for one am sick of being told what the Bible says I shouldn't do when A) I know damn well what it says and B) I don't believe in it.

Thank you for understanding the whole concept. If you could please try to communicate that to those hating christians, I would greatly appreciate it.

Have a pleasant day.

Answer 8

Wdon't hate you its that its wrong in Gods Eyes. But who are we to judge. we can't judge. I feel tha what you do is your own business and that you will be held acountable with god. Hetrosexual sin as well which is also not plaesing to God. I just want to say that I know all you have to do is pray and ask God to give you direction. I don't hate you but love you. Find a church that you can br comfortable in and seek out answers.

Answer 9

Its is because whenever "Christians" discuss homosexuality, the bibe is quoted (selectively) or they say "we'll just pray for you". People quote the bible as God's word. It is a collection of writings by Man, not God. In America, the most vocal opponents of "gay marriage" is the Christian church.

Answer 10

We don't hate all christians we just hate the one's who always life their life by a book which is not even written by God. The bible is actually a book of opinions. And the reason gays hate some christians is because they preach to us about how we're gonna burn in hell, instead of just respecting us as humans.

Answer 11

love the christian hate the belief.

i appreciate the sentiment and i don't hate christians either, though i do hate what some of their charished beliefs are doing to our society. i personally don't like people praying for me unless i ask them to and trust their intentions of prayer. i am glad to hear that you understand that loving your neighbor and that not condemning sin while sinning yourself is a suitable action. since you seem to be open to hearing what others have to say, i will take the time to tell you why most gay people think [most] christians hate them. i hope that it doesn't come across in a snide way because that is not my intention. i do really want to bridge this gap in an honest and respectful way.

it is the belief that homosexuality is wrong (which is a judgement like it or not, just like if i told you that eating hotdogs was wrong by my own religious doctrine) that is causing so much problem for the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) community. it is promoted at such a high degree that everyone, religious or not, hears it on a nearly day-to-day basis and it affects our nation's decision making processes and it is creating harmful consequences.

to try and give you a view of the otherside, let's pretend you like to eat hotdogs everyday and in public.
because i believe eating hotdogs is a sin and an abomination:
1) should the basic human and civil rights of people offending my beliefs be elimiated because my religious doctorine says what they are doing is wrong and an abomination?
2) should i actively perpetuate this idea of "wrongness" and the punishments that come as a result (that are stated clearly in my beloved holy doctrine) by openly preaching it to whom anyone i choose regardless of how they feel about it?
3) should i support this idea on a larger level by allowing ministers who share my belief to televise it and voting for politicians who agree with what my holy book says? should i do this in good conscious, knowing that it can easily seep into the minds of those who haven't yet developed their own way of thinking, leaving them to decide what are appropriate actions to take about eliminating "wrongness" aka: harassment, killing, or neglect?
4) should i continue preaching my belief in my own circles, knowing that it ripples out and eventually causes emotional, physical, and societal harm to the offenders of my belief?

this, my dear, is why most gay people think [most] christians hate them. the perpetuation of the belief is the root of the disease.

the bible isn't the only book of spirituality, and with all that it has gone through, i personally find it difficult to sort the truth out of the lies. for example, just the fact that king james (hello, politician here) has his own version published leaves it to doubt what is true and what is false. there are the gospels of the bible that have been removed from all versions, as posted previously, by a counsel. why should anything be removed? sounds like someone had an agenda and these gospels opposed it, doesn't it?

on bible passages that relate to the topic:
i do believe also, like someone else mentioned, that what was happening in sodom was rape of heterosexual men which is, without a doubt, a crime, not homosexuality itself. the fact that jesus mentions eunuchs and that some are indeed "born that way" means that a lot of the homosexual opposition is in question when they call it an affliction and changable. eunuchs were considered female and kings had sex with them. there is a website that more accurately decribes what a eunuch is. there is a synopsis on the first page if you don't want to delve deeply into it. any of you who are LBGT will appreciate this one:

http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/#Home%202

i have also seen this reference to eunuchs in this way on a very conservative site and they mention that jesus never condemned them for it (of course they had the usual conservative things to say too).

as soon as you think you know something, your mind closes, so get out there and explore!
i would like to encourage anyone who is into the bible and uses it as their primary source of enlightenment, to poke aroung bit and see what else is out there on the bible. there are several books that give a more accurate translation of aramaic (the language jesus spoke) to english. the passages seem to change quite dramatically. there are the gnostic gospels, magdalene scrolls, and the gospel of thomas as well (and probably some others too). there are in fact countless books on the subject. it may also help to check in and see what other religions believe to get a more rounded idea of humanity (just because you read or listen to it, doesn't mean you have to take it as your own, think of it as listening to someone elses' personal story).


peace.