Who else thinks Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of Fame??

Question

The greatest and hard-nosed player to ever grace a baseball field...i modeled everything i did after him except i was a home run hitter...has the most hits ever for a career that will stand for a long time if not ever...its what u do on the field not off of it!!...I hope he gets in before he dies or it will be the greatest tradgedy in sports history!

Answer 1

Pete Rose is the greatest hitter in the history of baseball. If the hall of fame lets steroid cheaters such as mcgwire, sosa, palmeiro, bonds, etc in, then it is a shame that they won't let the greatest hitter and hardest player in the history of the sport in. Pete Rose is my idol, i don't care if he bet on baseball or not, that is nothing compared to CHEATING, and yet these cheaters will still get in the hall of fame.

Answer 2

I'm confused. Are you for Pete Rose getting into the Hall of Fame or not? Because your question would appear that you want him to be in, but your details seem to say that you think maybe Rose doesn't belong, and that steroid users shouldn't be allowed in either. Regardless of which it is, the 2 are totally unrelated. Pete Rose bet on baseball, and that fact does not change just because players have been using PED's. Baseball has set very clear guidelines as for how players who test positive for banned substances will be dealt with. And while some may feel the punishment may be on the light side (including me), it is what it is. I have no problem with people who think that players who have tested positive should not be in the Hall of Fame. And given that Mark McGwire has barely received 25% of the vote despite the fact that he has never been proven to have used is probably an indication of how the HOF voters are looking at these players. But I do take issue with anyone thinking that what Rose has somehow become "okay" because players a full generation later did something that they feel is worse. The answer to the steroid issue, and the eligibility of players who have used is to make the punishment for doing so stronger, not to lighten up the rules on gambling. One last note regarding the fact that Rose is the all time leader in hits. There are no exceptions to the gambling rules. Nowhere does it say that the rules don't apply if you have more than 4,000 hits, nowhere does it say that the rule does not apply to players who "hustled all the time" or "played the game the right way". And it certainly does not say that a player will be taken off the permanently ineligible list of someone welse does something that we think may be worse. Rose has received the recognition he deserves for his hits record. It's listed in what they call "record books". Nobody has taken any of that away from him. And I have to wonder if all of those people who use that as a reason why Rose should be in the HOF will be so quick to use that same reasoning in defense of Bonds when he becomes eligible. I doubt very many of Pete's supporters, most of whom seem to say that you can't possibly allow anyone who has ever used any PED's into the HOF, will rally around Bonds simply because he holds one of the most treasured records in the game. Sorry folks, but you can't have it both ways. And you certainly can't use any player' use of PED's as an excuse for what Rose did. It was against the rules, he knew it, and he did it anyway. he did it knowingly, he did it habitually, and he did it with out any remorse. Or at least did it without any remorse until he realized showing that remorse would help him sell a few books. Rose does not belong in the HOF. He didn't belong there in 1989, he doesn't belong there now, and he won't belong there in 100 years.

Answer 3

No. He gambled, got caught, lied about it, then finally told the truth to sell books. Rose is a scumbag and should never be allowed into the hall.

Just to be clear, as a player he deserves to be in the HOF, but he was selfish even then. He continued to play for several years when he was hurting his team. He was the worse 1B in baseball for his last five years. He stayed so he would break Ty Cobb's record.

Imagine how hated Barry Bonds would be if he played for five more years, while hurting his team, in order to pass Hank Aaron. That is the same thing Rose did.

Rose is an embarrassment to baseball. Greatest tragedy in sports? Stop drinking the kool-aid.

Answer 4

Yes, he should be put in the Hall of Fame for many reasons. He had some problems, but look at all the problems in baseball right now. He is the all time hit leader and deserves to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Answer 5

I think he should be in the Hall of Fame, it's hardly a deterrent to the 99.9% of players who have no shot at making the Hall by keeping him out. I'd say put him in the Hall, put Shoeless Joe in as well, but never allow him to be officially involved in the game again. Keep the ban to send the message to anyone else considering gambling on baseball that if you do this, you're through in the game.

Answer 6

You said in your question, "It's what you do on the field, not off of it..."
According to the official HOF voting rules:

"5. Voting — Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, INTEGRITY, sportsmanship, CHARACTER, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played."

To put this in context, the football HOF does not include this - you are supposed to vote based on their playing ability only. But in baseball, you are supposed to take into account a players' character and integrity. Pete Rose obviously fails these categories.


Pete Rose knew that if he bet on baseball, he would be banned from the HOF. He did it anyways. He is a great person to model your playing style after, but he should not be in the Hall.

Answer 7

Sorry to prick your balloon, but Pete Rose crossed the line when he made bets on his own team when he was manager. And then he lied about it and has never showed any remorse. He claims he never bet against his team, but how can he prove that, especially after the denials he made that he ever gambled on baseball to begin with. He disgraced himself and baseball NO, he should NOT be let in to the Hall of fame.

Hope this changes your mind.

Answer 8

I think he should be in the hall of fame. So many issues. He should be judged on his baseball accomplishment not on his personal issues. He is not running for husband or father of the year (which I don't think he should get) he wants to be in the hall of fame for baseball. He was a great baseball player and that is what the hall of fame should represent. Just my thoughts.

Answer 9

He deserves to be in based on what the criteria is. As far as cheaters in the HOF? Nobody said anything about Gaylord Perry being inducted - someone who got caught red-handed cheating. Now ask the question, when Perry got caught, was that the first time he did it? You know damn well it wasn't. Do you know when Bonds started using steroids? I'm not talking about the speculation, I'm talking about what has been proved. No you don't.
All of these guys numbers speak for themselves. Pete Rose: HOF before he bet on baseball. Gaylord Perry: HOF before vaseline/spit ball (as far what was proven). Bonds: HOF before he broke Mark McGuires record. Only thing proven is that he hates the media - vice/versa.

Answer 10

Pete Rose is a dumbass. If he would have come clean and admit that he did it and apologized 20 years ago he owuld be in. He denied it for so long and everybody knew he did it. I think he should be in based on stats but I don't think he deserves it for being a liar. If they let him in they have to let Shoeless Joe in as well. Bonds, Palmeiro, McGwire and Sosa should not be let in either. Just think 2 of the best baseball players of their time (sosa and Palmeiro) just fell off the earth. They are guilty.

Answer 11

Pete Rose is BANNED from baseball FOR LIFE....and for a good reason.

This means he is NOT allowed in the HOF, not even as a paying customer.

He even signed a statement agreeing to this ban, and has openly admitted to betting on games while playing and managing.

That, my friend, is a big NO NO.