Could liberals be any more transparent about WMDs?

Question

Liberals say that the chem/bio weapons were too old or were planted. Which one is it?

PROVEN: Saddam used WMDs on the Kurds.
PROVEN: Saddam used WMDs on the Iranians.
PROVEN: WMDs existed IN Iraq, at the time in invasion of 2003, even though Saddam denied it.

Remains? the gas was still inside. You act like they just found the shopping bag from WMDs are us.

All I've heard was that there were no WMDs, never were, and now there's proof that there are.

JIM W- Wow, changing the subject. I'm an atheist and a republican. Ain't that a head-scratcher?

DECIDER- They were still operable when we invaded 3 years ago and they existed in the country. Warfare isn't like I-PODs we use machienguns that were invented in World War 2 (Browning .50 cal) if it works, it can be used.

First of all, he's used it and we found more. Both evidence that Bush did not "lie" secondly, anyone who knows how intelligence reports go, knows that you collect what people say and sift it for what sounds likely. If people say he has all this stuff, he has used it in the past, it's not a big stretch to assume he has WMDs, which he did.

Answer 1

Yeah, Saddam used WMDs IN THE 80'S. Fair enough. Bad guy. But did he actually have WMDs that he could actually use in 2003? No way. They were, even by Santorum's account degraded at that time.

Answer 2

PROVEN: Congressional and other records show, that Washington made an unholy accommodation with Saddam during the 1980s.

PROVEN: Rumsfeld, as Ronald Reagan's special envoy to the Middle East, visited Iraq in 1983 and 1984 to establish firmer relations with Saddam (at the same time the administration was criticizing Iraq for using chemical weapons).

PROVEN: Colin Powell and Dick Cheney were in top decision-making positions for the period of Saddam's worst atrocities, the massacre and gassing of the Kurds in 1988 and the crushing of the Shiite rebellion in 1991 that might have overthrown him.

PROVEN: In October, 1989, Bush I issued a national security directive, declaring that "normal relations between the United States and Iraq would serve our longer-term interests and promote stability in both the Gulf and the Middle East."

YET TO BE REALIZED BY MANY: The Bush administration has openly declared its intention to dismantle what remained of the system of world order and to rule the world by force, with Iraq as a demonstration project.

That intention has elicited fear and often hatred throughout the world, and despair among those who are concerned about the likely consequences of choosing to remain complicit with the current policies of U.S. aggression at will. That is, of course, a choice very largely in the hands of the American people.

Answer 3

Richard M - Liberals didn't say that, a senior defense department official told Fox news they were too old. Here:

Offering the OFFICIAL administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.

"This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."

OK?

YEAH, but look at YOUR question, buddy! It WASN"T L I B E R A L S! It was Dept of Defense.

Answer 4

Here's what Mr.Bush has had to say on the subject, can you show evidence of ANY of this?


"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
George W. Bush, Speech to UN General Assembly 9/12/2002

"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons. We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
George W. Bush, Radio Address 10/5/2002

"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."
George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Ohio Speech 10/7/2002

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
George W. Bush, State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

Why aren't the insurgents using any of these manned and unmanned aerial vehicles to distribute the chemical weapons in their struggle against us? Or are they just to dumb to think of that with Sadaam in custody?

Answer 5

Proven: Terrorists love to hang out in Iraq. Proven: terrorists love to kill innocent people. Proven: terrorists were given safe haven in Iraq before and after the beginning of the war. Proven: Saddam WAS a terorist. Proven: Saddam had WMD's!!!!!!!!

Answer 6

I don't understand your reaction.
I'm a liberal, and never claimed they were planted.
They were found, but according to the links I checked, the one at FoxNews included, the administration said they were old.

How come when Fox and I agree, you write it is liberals who say they weapons were too old. According to the US Dept of Defense, they ARE too old. Don't blame us for saying that!

Hey! One more thing- if they were usable why didn't Saddam use them when he had the chance. He knew he wasn't going to win the fight. Wouldn't you have used them if you knew you were going down? See, you make no sense. They were unusable. Not a big stretch, as you like to say, to see THAT!

Answer 7

Dude, Saddam culd nuke us like he did them an libs wuld still say no WMDs.

Answer 8

Could conservatives be any more transparent about "christian morality"?
Including Christ's teachings about forgiveness and peace?

Could Rush Limbaugh be any more transparent about "personal responsibility"?

Could Bush be any more transparent about "staying the course"
(read:no clue what he's doing).

Could people for capital punishment be anymore transparent about "respect for life?