How sad, Christians believe humans, as intelligent as we are, dont have the ability 2 derive morals from LIFE!

Question

This is my third Q [please check out the others] in a set made for sorting out actual helpful thoughts on ethics/morality w/out the idea of a Godhead. Its all too obvious the masses are brainwashed as you'll see in my other two previous Q's. "God" this, "god" that, and all without support of THEIR OWN ideas, only references to the bible and a perverse thought process that literally degrades humans in a notion that focuses on the vices of normal people in everday life and not on the good of the world. The same thing, "if it wasnt for "God" ther would be no morals".

Really? Are you that sickened by religious psychosis and/or the bandwagon faith of society that it is impossible for you to belive or at least percieve we as people have the POWER to help one another, derive just standards, and simply be peaceful people w/out the help of a cultural opiate passed on though the ages? Pitiful

Any1 w/ an answer that isnt empty of a REAL thought process, and not a carboncopy mindset please

Answer 1

It is very sad. Anyone who does a good amount of reading on ethics will know better. Christians tend to not read good books. They just accept the beliefs they were raised with and stick to them out of loyalty, fear, and familiarity. A lot of people don't like to think that what their parents taught them was wrong. A lot of people also have a very hard time dealing with mortality without a belief in a Heaven and benevolent god waiting for them. The truth is, we really just do not know what happens. There could be a deeper purpose to our being here. There could of been an intelligence behind what is. I would never say there definitely is or is not. On the same token though I can see the works or man from a mile away. The Bible wreaks of man, and all his fears. It's far too obvious that a god had nothing to do with what's in that book. I can can spot it just like I can spot the hand writing of a three year old. It's a shame others have such a hard time seeing this. I think this goes beyond their intelligence or lack thereof. It comes from a much deeper emotional issue. To lose faith in God would be akin to losing meaning to everything and that would leave them horribly broken and lost. It's too bad they can't see the other alternatives. One can lead a very spiritual life without placing belief in ridiculous claims.

Answer 2

Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that everything comes from God. Every day I just cannot help praise God for a sense of "rightness and wrongness" which we all have . Non religious people claim , maybe with some justification ,that they are more highly developed intellectually.Even to the stage of having a monopoly on logic and reason.I have to admit there seems very little sign of it in Yahoo QA .So perhaps the religious function of the brain has atrophied alongside the intellectual side.This would perhaps explain why society seems to have reached such a primeval level of behaviour.

Answer 3

It is sad..that a higher primate would think himself capable of creating his own moral code that would come from his limited thought processes. To imagine one self as the ultimate in morality and intelligence is really something. Pretty soon you will have a time when you can set your own morality for a 7 year period. Have fun then and see what turns up.. I don't think you will like it, but you get your turn ..

Answer 4

Everyone's conclusions are built upon existing presuppositions. For whatever personal reasons, you reject the presupposition that a Creator or Deity exists.

From that foundational presupposition, your logic seeks to construct an explanation for reality (and, as a subset of that reality, human ethics).

However, what is puzzling to me is your fierce rhetoric ("sickened", "pitiful", "empty", "perverse", etc.) that belies less than rational thought on what is essentially your preexisting ontological departure from Deism - you presuppose the universe exists as you say it does - perhaps "simply" because you say it does - and then berate anyone who does not share your presupposition (and logically builds their worldview upon their presuppositions).

I am not "sickened" by your unwilingness to embrace my presuppositoin that a personal God exists and rules all that He created as Sovereign Lord. But I am willing to call out your failure to approach the divergence in presuppostions as an emotional tirade rather than an intelligent dialogue.

Answer 5

I agree. I don't need the bible to tell me what is right and wrong. you are going to laugh. I once asked a Christian "In their eyes if I spend my life not causing harm to others and helping out whom ever I can, but I don't believe in God would I still go to hell when I die?" And they said yes. How ridiculous is that thought. He said the only way to get to heaven was to accept Jesus Christ. So, basically you can be a murderer or a child molester but if you believe in Jesus and repent you may go to heaven. It doesn't make sense to me. I live life my morals and standards that I have created for myself.

Answer 6

why are people so obssesses with the afterlife anyway?!?! lets worry about this life and this world we live in! its a mess that needs to be cleaned!! because at the rate were goin, if there was such thing as "heaven", and its standards to "get in" no one would be on that list! not even the Christians!

Answer 7

Wow, you just wasted a bunch of time.

I almost made it through two sentences before the bitterness caused boredom.

Yawn.

Answer 8

gee, someone's disappointed with life. why don't you spend your time doing something other than religious bashing?

Answer 9

i would say, look at the Muslims or Islamics , they seem to have trouble with morals as i see them................