Born Gay??

Question

do any of you believe you can be born gay?

as a strait individual (which isn't relivent at all), i believe it is impossible to be born with a certain belief already in mind

please comment, i don't mean to insult anyone or to be insulted

for the girl who tried to validate homosexual birth with a claim from a friend as her total proof, this cannot be taken as valid evidence considering its a person's claim out of the billions among us on earth

i believe you cannot be born gay just like you cannot be born liking a certain food

i admit, its not a choice, but you definately aren't born that way

Answer 1

Well do you believe you where born straight? Another question for you if you tried to could you choose to be gay? I mean if you where on a deserted island and the only woman there didn't want you but the three guys there did could you choose one of the guys instead of the woman who hated you? Just a little mind game. I know we are not going to convince you of what you obviously already know seeing as how you have experienced life as a homosexual ..... oh sorry, well what every it is you base your enlightened knowledge on. I know we can't change your mind so there it is take it for what it is worth. I will pray for you brother. You do the same. And we can both be happy. And I don't mean to be insulting either it is just that we see this question a 100 times a month and it never gets old. Well that is not true but we continue to address it.

Edit:
Being Bisexual I do not have a choice in who I am attracted to. I am able to pass as straight and have a loving straight relationship but that doesn't make my desire for men go away. I have a whole side of my nature that goes unfulfilled by my choice to get married. So in essence I am celibate to half my desires. This is a hard thing to do and I would not recommend it to anyone. If something where to happen to my wife I don’t think I would get married again I would stay single. I would not want to deny my hetero desires anymore than I have denied my homosexual desires.

Answer 2

im a 22 year old gay male,my sexuallity is relevant to the question at hand. I cant speak for anyone else,but from my personal and individual experience in life i know that i was born this way. I grew up in the suburbs with both my mother and father who have been married for the past 32 years. I have two other siblings a brother and sister both straight. From early on in my life i knew there was somthing different about me but being all of 4 or 5 u dont have the capacity to understand or put your finger on what it is. Growing up i started noticing a strong attraction to boys/men and i never felt it was wrong. I was bright enough to know it wasnt somthing that some one did to me or somthing i chose but more a natural progression of my sexuallity. Some people say homosexuallity is a product of environment,but i grew up with no openly gay people and was not exposed to homosexual activity. Others say it comes from being molested or violated in some way as a youth, and i have to say no to that also, i was never touched or treated inappropriately. I have lived a very "normal" life thus far and have a degree under my belt and very strong ties with my family. My parents see me as an individual, free from any labels society has put on me or the larger group i fall into. Seeing as they raised me and have seen my progression from childhood into Manhood they respect me and respect the fact that it, for me was not a choice and that i am playing the cards i was delt in life and will continue to..thanks for listening.

Answer 3

Part of the problem with your question is that you call it a belief. Is being heterosexual a belief? No you were born that way. Why is that any different than homosexual. It's no different than being left or right handed, or being artistic, or a genius. Are people so confused because so many homosexuals try to live a straight life...get married and have kids....before they accept themselves and live their life as who they really are? I can see why this might make people think you suddenly choose but that's not the case.

Answer 4

Human sexuality is set at beginning, basically because it truly is with different animals. in actuality, bisexual and gay habit has been documented in extra advantageous than 450 animal species worldwide. The e book organic and organic Exuberance is a great compilation of this learn. There are basically as many gays and lesbians now as there ever have been formerly -- approximately 10% of the final inhabitants. that's actual everywhere interior the worldwide. the only difference is how open persons are waiting to be approximately their sexuality. for particular, in international locations the place homosexuality is against the regulation, gay subculture is pushed underground.

Answer 5

Nobody's born gay (or even straight for that matter). We are all born into an environment to be influenced...choice though has a role to play here, but our choice priviledge increases as we grow up. For instance, a one year old can only play around the room where a guardian is, athree year old child can run around the house under watchful eyes and a 6 year old can go to the neighbours house next door to play with mates.
If we are born into a straight family or environment, we assume straightness until an influence from another environment (a gay environment) sets in "with the assistance of choice".

Answer 6

There has been studies that have shown that animals can have homosexual tendencies. There's no way an animal 'decided'. I think that the tendency toward homosexuality can have a genetic component, but that environment and choice can also be a part of it. I've had friends that I believe chose their lifestyle, and friends who most certainly were 'born' with the propensity to be gay.

Answer 7

I believe that there are children from the beginning of conciousness they start to realize they have a bond with the same sex, or with the differant sex. I believe that most everyone is sexual from birth, but that it matures at differant rates.
I think that limitations such as "gay" or "straight" is completely a taught thing, but that things such as attraction and love are known from the earliest ages naturally.

Answer 8

I have a female cousin, in her family there were three girls and one boy. From before she went to school she refused to wear dresses and would only play with trucks and cars. She has a very deep and masculine voice.

She is now in her 30s and is a lesbian.
I believe she was born gay.

Answer 9

As we are sexually unaware at birth then the answer is clearly NO, I do not believe I can have a belief (or sentiment) at birth that I am gay.

I do believe that it is quite possible for a child to be born gay, however. Please see my answer to a previous question regarding the science behind gaydom, I hope it makes you reconsider your position.

Regards

Answer 10

Yes I do believe that homosexuality is genetically predetermined, and I also believe that heterosexuality is. Homosexuality is no more a choice than heterosexuality. People can tell you it is, you can believe them -- this is America, there is NO requirement that you not believe whatever you want. That won't change the belief from being false however.

The people with choice are the bisexuals. They can select either. My lover of nearly 15 years is bisexual. He selected to be with me. I understand this. The choice for gays however is to believe in themselves and live good, full lives -- or hide, be miserable and be someone/something other than what they are.

How do we know this? Well, let's start with animal studies. For hundreds of years it was commonly presumed that there were no exclusively homosexual animals -- I still hear that argument quoted occasionally. Yet, we know it is false. Not only do we know anecdotally (I for example grew up on a farm. At one point we had a gay bull -- absolutely no response to the pheremones of females in heat at all -- much more interested in other bulls), but we also know scientifically. Hundreds of species have been studied, those species that had pair bonding also had homosexual pair bonding. The seminal study on this subject is Dr. Bruce Bagemihl -- "Biological Exuberance" from St. Martin's Press. You can probably get a used copy inexpensively from Amazon if you are interested, or from Barnes and Noble online.

So, what was classically the most powerful argument against the natural origins of homosexuality -- emasculated. And you can tell that many anti-gay leaders know it, because the argument is now much deemphasized compared to its usage 25 years ago.

Once you go beyond the natural law argument therefore -- you face the discussion of humanity itself.

Is homosexuality a choice? Well, is heterosexuality? For bisexuals who elect to be straight or gay -- it is a choice, clearly; but the average straight boi never has the ability to choose to be gay -- and those who are honest would tell you the same. Likewise, the average homosexual simply doesn't have a choice to be straight.

Again, anecdotally, its easy enough. I am gay, I knew that I felt very special about boys and that they excited me somehow, gave me butterflies in my stomach when I liked them a lot -- when I was 8. I also knew I didn't feel the same way about girls. By 11 I realized it was sexual (the reasons I realized that should be evident without my spelling them out). I never, ever had even a single erotic or sexual thought about a girl -- nor did I have any romantic feelings toward them. I always had some friends of each gender, as most young country people do -- but I never had any butterflies for the girls -- so when did I choose? At 7? Without knowing it? Do you really, really believe that? I don't think you do. You can assert that I'm lying to you, that all the millions of gays who say they never remember being anything but gay are lying -- but again, it doesn't pass the smell test -- do you really believe it? I doubt it very much. You are too honest for that, aren't you? So that leaves you with -- we have all deceived ourselves. I doubt that you believe that either, not deep inside.

Beyond that, study after study, piling up on one another. The eyeblink study strongly indicates a genetic origin. The pheremonal studies (there are multiple ones), even a logitudnal study that looked at prebirth reactions. And, most compelling, the fruitfly study. A colleague's husband, who is a medical researcher at Albany Med, sent me word the day after that came out -- saying simply "you've won, the troops in the trenches on both sides may take a while to realize it, but you've won, its natural." The counter attacks on the fruit fly study are, frankly, a joke -- and they depend on their readers not understanding the study to start with. Fruit-flies are simple compared to humans, and the genetic structures are much simpler -- but the simple fact is that changing a single gene from generation to generation changed whole generations of fruit-flies from heterosexual to homosexual and then back the next generation. Among humans its much more complex -- probably involving 4 to 6 chromosomal bands, possibly more -- perhaps as many as a quarter of all genes in various combinations -- but ultimately it will still be found to be genetic I rather suspect, the jury is out, but the evidence is overwhelming. I predict exact mapping on the genome for all homosexually affecting bands within 25 years (no shock there, several university study groups have promised the same). There is some (though diminishing I suspect) possibility that the genes work in combination with chemical reactions in the womb. That is not yet completely clear -- that is why I say chemo-genetic.

So, scientific evidence is that in fact homosexuality is NOT a choice, but a biological imperative, probably caused by genetics, but possibly by genetics mixed with chemical reactions. Homosexuality exists in nature, among species that do not reason -- and if you are of a literalistic religious bent -- cannot be said to have been touched by so called "original sin."

Which brings us to my last note. Your notation that one persons testimony cannot be trusted may be true, but its not one person -- its millions saying the same thing -- together with the largest professional associations of psychogists and psychiatrists in the world -- and even if it were just personal testimonies -- if you are going to discard these testimonies, you have to discard all subjective testimony -- and what does that do to the world's legal systems? To religions -- all of which are based on eye-witness accounts? I could go on, but you get the point.

Kind regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
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