I believe the 15 million figure was exploded by Rush, and that was acknowledged by Majors in the House, on television. Its kind of like the 800.000 man march or the 2 million Jews that have been added to the statistics in the last 50 years.
Have you ever heard of the Trail of Tears? That was about Americans dying.
2006-06-21 06:06:16
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answered by tex 5
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Your 15 million figure is not only inaccurate but inflammatory. If it was 1, that was too many so there is no need to make it appear any worse than it was.
Since you want to hold slaves up as the poster children for suffering, I think it befitting you mention all the other countries which have had citizen who were slaves.
It's a long list as it is virtually every country on the planet.
While you're playing the "wow is me card", you might also want to ask why your own people were the ones who were selling you into slavery. In pretty much every other instance, slaves where the byproduct of lost battles and wars.
And lastly, if it had not been for the practice of slavery, people who were intended to be salves would have certainly been killed. That doesn't make it right, but it sure beats the alternative.
2006-06-21 08:25:22
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answered by freetyme813 4
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Holocaust comes from the Greek word holokauston, which means something that is "completely burnt". Around 14th century A.D., it appeared in the English language to signify a sacrifice at an altar.
So even though many Jews were slaughtered in ways other than burning, the word itself has some roots with that event in history. It also just so happens that WWII was more recent, so the term is often associated to that as a result.
Truth is that you can use whatever word you like that suits your preference. If you want to call the 15-million plus Africans that lost their lives a Holocaust, then feel free to do so. Call it genocide, murder, oppression, whatever so long as the message is clear.
2006-06-21 06:54:24
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answered by SirCharles 6
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It is not only right but essential that the Holocaust serve as a constant reminder to inform people and new generations of the systematic murders of some 11 million people during WWII - the most horrible documented event in modern history. I wish you had provided evidence to support the 15 million drownings at sea.
2006-06-21 06:57:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Holocaust is used to describe a mass murder like to the Jews, but also to the Armenians in Turkey. So why not to the 15-millions African Slaves too?
2006-06-21 06:52:13
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answered by mu_sa_kossan 5
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Any group that feels it has suffered mistreatment is welcome to complain, and build monuments to itself. If you want to campaign for funding for a memorial to drowned slaves, you may do so.
The Holocaust is not limited to Jews, but to all the "undesirables" murdered along with them, as well. The majority were Jews, but the Holocaust included Gypsies, the retarded or insane, and millions of others, as well. It was the largest mass ethnic murder in history, as far as anyone knows.
From what source does your 15 million figure come?
2006-06-21 06:51:00
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answered by dognhorsemom 7
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This is funny. If an Afro-American mentions slavery, he is told to get over it. Jews, however, have assured that noone will forget the holocaust. Call me anti-semetic if you want, but I know more about the Jewish Holocaust than my own, damn near, due to the semantics of today's classrooms. But that's just another, annoying black man complaining about slavery. Amazing what the inclusion, or absence of a word can do to context. Just like "looking for food" and "looting" when reffering to Hurricane Katrina, which Bush acted on in record time, of course.
2006-06-25 17:39:03
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answered by Huey Freeman 5
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Perhaps the holocaust as it pertains to the Jews is more profound because it happened in our (or our parent's or our grandparent's) lifetime. Perhaps it is also so profound because it was basically one man who ordered and oversaw this mass murder-Adolf Hitler. No one can deny that he was a monster. And if you don't feel at all victimized by him, rest assured that he hated blacks as well. So you can claim some of the victim status of his legacy for yourself if you wish.
Frankly, I see what you are doing-you are trying to say that slavery was just as bad if not worse than the Holocaust. I agree. Do you know any one who was a slave or who owned a slave-I mean, any one living? Are any of you neighbors slavery survivors? Slavery sucked. It was awful. But in terms of our history (American history, which is relatively brief when compared to that of other nations) it's ancient.
Furthermore, WWII ended roughly 50 years ago, the descendants of Jewish victims are not still citing the holocaust as their excuse for not achieving success. The same cannot be said of many of the descendants of slaves.
So, rather than waste your time and energy trying to decide which ethnic group has the greatest claim to victim fame, why not divert that energy to something constructive like...getting a life.
2006-06-21 07:32:08
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answered by kelly24592 5
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Well it is the year 2006 and today is the first day of summer. Groups of the human race continue to suffer in unprecedented numbers on this very day .....of war, starvation in Africa and elsewhere and of other atrocities in this world. You seem to want claim to that fame-don't. The human race has a flaw in their moral mentality not to be able to control themselves alot better than this by the year 2006.
2006-06-21 10:30:18
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answered by Seagoat 2
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15,000,000 Now let me understand something . The ships were small after looking this up the average ship could hold approx 150 people. So you are saying 100,000 boats are sunk between africa and their destination.
According to history only 500,000 slaves were ever brought to this country between 1619 and 1818 .
African slaves were usually sold to European traders by powerful coastal or interior states in exchange for European goods, such as textiles and firearms. Africans were very rarely kidnapped by Europeans because they could not penetrate the interior. The danger of fatal disease was ever-present and the coastal areas were dominated by powerful warrior kingdoms. Such was the kingdom of Dahomey one of whose kings was reputed to have an income 5 times that of the most wealthy British Duke from selling his fellow Africans. The kings of Dahomey sold their war captives into transatlantic slavery, who otherwise would have been killed in a ceremony known as the Annual Customs
As coastal and near-coastal nation states in Africa expanded through military conflicts, the captives of these wars, usually civilians but sometimes defeated warriors, were enslaved and sold. Collection of slaves was sometimes a basis for warfare but more often than not, enslavement was simply a by-product of war. Slavery had been a staple of African political life long before the coming of Europeans. Conviction of a crime was another way to become a slave. Since most if not all of these nations did not have a prison system, criminal slaves were usually sold.
So you are saying your ancestors would have been better off dead by this mans hands .Than slaves in this country to be your ancestors here so you can complain.
Research your facts and history before you state facts next time.
Also it is according to historical facts only 12 million slaves were ever rounded up and shipped from Africa to be dispersed all over the world.
2006-06-21 07:52:21
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answered by Anonymous
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