I strongly disagree. The war hawks lied about WMD`s and other reasons for the attack on Iraq. It goes much deeper than Saddam being a tyrant. There are more people dying in Iraq now than under Saddam. So the liberation lie is no good there. In any action one must ask the question who is to gain. Yes indeed big oil and halliburton and Israel, who is to gain?
THE REAL REASON WE ARE AT WAR!
TIME MAGAZINE NOVEMBER 13, 2000 - Page 34
FOREIGN EXCHANGE
SADDAM TURNS HIS BACK ON GREENBACKS
Europe's dream of promoting the euro as a competitor
to the U.S. dollar may get a boost from SADDAM HUSSEIN.
Iraq says that from now on, it wants payments for its
oil in euros, despite the fact that the battered
European currency unit, which use to be worth quite
a bit more than $1, has dropped to about 82 cents.
Iraq says it will no longer accept dollars for oil
because it does not want to deal "in currency of the
enemy."
The switch to euros would cost the U.N. a small
fortune in accounting paperwork changes. It would also
reduce the interest earnings and reparations payments
that Iraq is making for damage it caused during the Gulf War,
a shortfall the Iraqis would have to make up.
The move hurts Iraq, the U.N. and the countries receiving
reparations. So why is Saddam doing it? Diplomatic
sources say switching to the euro will favor European
suppliers over U.S. ones in competing for Iraqi contracts,
and the p.r. boost that Baghdad would probably get in
Europe would be another plus.
Just days after the WTC attack, on September 20, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not exactly play the role of statesman when he demanded of the US Congress that America must wage war not just on Afghanistan, but must also attack all of Israel's enemies, real and perceived, including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
He was clearly capitalizing on American heartbreak to further his own self-interest and that of Israel's.
Israeli apologists in the Bush government immediately fell all over themselves in disgusting agreement.
Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz demanded an attack on Iraq.
Defense Policy Board Chairman Richard Perle wanted us to start bombing Egypt.
It was reminiscent of the screams of one of the Columbine high school killers: "Kill 'em all!!!!"
It was a cynical ploy on Netanyahu's part, but intelligence reports since then indicate he may get his way yet.
The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11
As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...
...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.
A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers. (1)
Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)
"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)
[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)
Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)
The FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: "Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion." (7)
"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (8)
One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News:
Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab. (9)
(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these "Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")
Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.
When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (10)
Colin Powell, February 2001: "[Saddam] has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq."
Condoleeza Rice, July 2001: "We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
Video of comments by Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice
5 trillion reasons why Iraq was of no threat to the USA
The Euro And The War On Iraq
By Amir Butler
ATrueWord.com
info@atrueword.com
3-29-3
http://atrueword.com/index.php/article/articleview/49/1/1/
As Mark Twain once noted, prophecy is always difficult, particularly
with regards to the future. However, it is a safe bet that as soon as
Saddam is toppled one of the first tasks of the America-backed regime
will be to restore the US dollar as the nation's oil currency.
In November 2000, Iraq began selling its oil for euros, moving away from
the post-World War II standard of the US dollar as the currency of
international trade. Whilst seen by many at the time as a bizarre act of
political defiance, it has proved beneficial for Iraq, with the euro
gaining almost 25% against the dollar during 2001. It now costs around
USD$1.05 to buy one Euro.
Iraq's move towards the euro is indicative of a growing trend. Iran has
already converted the majority of its central bank reserve funds to the
euro, and has hinted at adopting the euro for all oil sales. On December
7th, 2002, the third member of the axis of evil, North Korea, officially
dropped the dollar and began using euros for trade. Venezuela, not a
member of the axis of evil yet, but a large oil producer nonetheless, is
also considering a switch to the euro. More importantly, at its April
14th, 2002 meeting in Spain, OPEC expressed an interest in leaving the
dollar in favour of the euro.
If OPEC were to switch to the euro as the standard for oil transactions,
it would have serious ramifications for the US economy. Oil-consuming
economies would have to flush the dollars out of their central bank
holdings and convert them to euros. Some economists estimate that with
the market flooded, the US dollar could drop up to 40% in value. As the
currency falls, there would be a monetary evacuation by foreign
investors abandoning the US stock markets and dollar-denominated assets.
Imported products would cost Americans a lot more, and the trade deficit
would be magnified.
It is foreign demand for the US dollar that funds the US federal budget
deficits. Foreign investors flush with dollars typically look to US
treasury securities as a means of secure investment. With a large
reduction in such investment, the country could potentially go into
default. Things could turn very bad, very quickly.
In May 2004 an additional 10 member nations will join the European
Union. At that point, the EU will represent an oil consumer 33% larger
than the United States. In order to mitigate currency risks, the
Europeans will increasingly pressure OPEC to trade in euros, and with
the EU at that stage buying over half of OPEC oil production, such a
change seems likely.
This is a scenario that America cannot afford to see eventuate. The US
will go to any length to fend off an attempt by OPEC to dump greenbacks
as its reserve currency. Attacking Iraq and installing a client regime
in Baghdad may have a preventative effect. It will certainly ensure that
Iraq returns to using dollars and provide a violent example to any other
nation in the region contemplating a migration to the euro.
How the Iraq war was sold to the US public
[1MB WMA download]
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
George W Bush, 5/24/05 [wma download]
Also, the media can legally lie to "catapult the propaganda": example.
Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
George W. Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly
September 12, 2002
Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
December 2, 2002
If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
George W. Bush
State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003
Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
February 5, 2003
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
George W. Bush
Radio Address
February 8, 2003
We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
Colin Powell
Interview with Radio France International
February 28, 2003
If Iraq had disarmed itself, gotten rid of its weapons of mass destruction over the past 12 years, or over the last several months since (UN Resolution) 1441 was enacted, we would not be facing the crisis that we now have before us . . . But the suggestion that we are doing this because we want to go to every country in the Middle East and rearrange all of its pieces is not correct.
Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
March 7, 2003
So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.
George W. Bush
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
2006-06-20 16:51:35
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It would be nice to see what was really going on there before the war?
But the facts are that what ever was will be we are there now. And we should get their Government up and running now before we leave. And we should get out of there not a minute sooner. It is not right for the USA to cut and run after starting the War. If we are seen as the most powerful Country in the World that goes around starting a Wars destroying Governments.
Then leaving the War will be here sooner then latter.
And no one wants that.
We our a great Country I hope we stay that way and hope the rest would start to see the same.
We should not push our views on other Countries.
If we would just stay home fix home Help this Country for a while before telling other be like me If they look at us close they will see the after math of Katrina that still looks as if it happened this weekend but we spend billions over seas on other Countries.
We need to think of America First
2006-06-21 00:00:52
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answered by AMERICA FIRST 2
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Agree with it, ever seen the DVD titled Weapon of Mass Destruction the Murderous Reigh of Saddam Hussein.
That DVD is not based on Republican or Democratic viewpoints (although it has been praised by Republicans and cursed by Democrats).
It is instead based on the Iraqis themselves (some who appear on the film have since been murdered by Insurgents).
Although it is not based on Republican or Democratic Viewpoints the beginning does have a Michael Moore steakout where a guy asks Michael Moore questions and Michael Moore admits at the beginning of the film that his Fahrenheit 9/11 film was not really a Documentary but rather an Opinion piece, he also admitted there were other sides to be told.
After that part was over one Host of the film said "if there is one thing I agree with this guy on it is that there is another voice out there."
The one Host also said he wanted to see if anyone would tell a story from the Iraqi point of view and no one would so he decided he was gonna work on a film to tell the story and in the film it had the question on if the War is really worth it.
At the end of the film from hearing the story from the Iraqis my answer is Yes this war is worth it.
2006-06-20 23:48:41
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answered by MrCool1978 6
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I strongly disagree with the whole concept of war, especially when it is unprovoked, and for the personal selfish motives. The great leaders of my motherland like Mahatma Gandhi (voted The man of the century), Jawaharlal nehru,etc all believed in resolving every issue by mutual talks in a peaceful and conductive environment. Even in the times of the Cold War, India under the able leadership and guidance of the then Prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru formed a neutral group which neither favoured U.S.A. nor the U.S.S.R. Wars only lead to death and destructionevery where. Women are widowved, children orphaned, and innocent people killed. But if enemy attacks without any provocation, every country has the right of self defence. But what U.S. did in Iraq can never be said an act of self defence.
2006-06-21 00:01:18
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answered by pinku 1
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I disagree with the starting of the war, but now once we have messed up these people's countries we should at least have the backbone to get them to a level they can have a decent peaceful existence. I think that fighting wars for which we gain nothing as a nation is a waste of money and lives. A war should be fought with a practical goal in mind with realistic achievable benefits. Other wise we are just killing people for no reason and wasting our own money.
2006-06-20 23:43:22
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answered by erik c 3
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can there even be any doubt in your mind .
i find this a highly suspicious question.suggesting collaboration of American Imperialism
all wars are bad ,and the results are always more conflict because of revenge or hate at the best ,to have war for peace is a contradiction.more war results.
peace makes more peace .
the American strategy is to take over control of the world ,and the terrorist stuff ,the propaganda's the lies ,are all to invent reasons for this strategy
The New world order will not be satisfied until it has achieved its goals
not caring how many millions of people are gonna be killed ,in the process ,in fact the more the better,Kissinger disclosed at a meeting in Stockholm that they had to lower the world population by 60%.Both Bush and Prince Philip confirmed this.
and the only way to do this is by nuclear war .
WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY IS BUILDING UP FOR THAT .
2006-06-20 23:50:49
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answered by Anonymous
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DISAGREE
because it was launched under intentionally deceptive pretenses.
otherwise known as the Bush Administrations purposely manipulated intelligence to launch a war to benefit their friends wallets. Look below at how haliburton has gone up since the war.... and the oil companies.
they also perverted American grief after 9-11 which is also unforgivable. Anyone who voted for him either time needs to seriously do something in their own lives to make up for what they've done to our country.
2006-06-20 23:44:26
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answered by brewstermccoy 2
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I disagree with the war based on the faulty intelligence and based on the fact that 911 had NOTHING to do with Iraq. There hasn't to this day been a connection proven. The perpetrators were Arab Saudis. Ask Bush why he didn't/wouldn't attack them?
2006-06-20 23:40:53
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answered by nquizzitiv 5
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We should never have gone into Iraq! We needed to go into Afghanistan to clear out the Taliban and Al Qaida, but we should have stayed there to finish that and should have left Iraq alone.
Of course, now that our president got us in there, we're stuck until we reach a point where we can get out without leaving a big mess behind!
2006-06-21 00:03:46
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answered by Nosy Parker 6
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Yes, I agree with it. We need as many democratic countries in the middle east as possible.
2006-06-20 23:41:34
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answered by Anonymous
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Who knows what the motives all are?
I agree with getting rid of terrorists.
I wish our boys could come home and leave other countries to their own probs.
2006-06-20 23:39:21
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answered by Texas Cowboy 7
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