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Two area boys spray painted 666 on some of the statuary at a national shrine. This was on June 6. Is this a hate crime or no? And what punishment do you think the boys should get? I'm not sure, but I think that they might have got let go. But for a while it looked like 4 years in prison, and now they might receive NOTHING! Shouldn't they at least have to pay for the damages?

2006-06-20 00:59:53 · 17 answers · asked by sunshine 2 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

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My initial reaction is that they should receive the harshest punishment allowable because of what they defaced. But they'll have to face God someday for that act anyway and deal with the consequences then. So I guess in the here and now, they should be treated the same as anyone else who who would deface any piece of public or private property.

2006-06-20 01:07:18 · answer #1 · answered by darylann 2 · 1 0

This sounds like a permissable expression of a political / religious viewpoint and an urgent reminder to the rest of us to beware.
These lads were obviously just trying to warn others. If the content was just vulgar or meaningless , than it would be graffitti or vandalism and they should be punished by cleaning it off. But since it had valid content of a expression of a belief, then perhaps it is only free speech. If the free speech was about a certain race or religion, then perhaps a minor hate crime, but it was not intended to cause hate, only rational fear of a sincere belief to beware of the devil coming soon. If they were wrong in their belief then it is still sincere and protected.
Listen to the message and forget about the fact it looks like simple vandalism. These boys had courage of their convictions to do this brave thing.
iIit vandalism or hate crime to spray " down with saddam" on his statue in Iraq. NO. it is an act of freedom of expression.
Is it hate crime to spray " God is dead" on the White house? NO, it is free expression of belief. The content of the writing must be considered in judging the act. There is no crime in fearing or hating the devil and warning others that he is coming or exists or is about the premises etc, even if you are wrong or a fool to believe it.

2006-06-20 01:11:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I unquestionably have a gay pal who (together with his companion...they have been married in Vermont and CA) he is going to a Catholic Church in San Francisco. Dave has defined his particular parish as being "professional-gay". i does no longer be shocked if the church in question became his. properly the "offended messages approximately Proposition 8, the state constitutional replace banning same-intercourse marriage" variety of point out that this wasn't completed by a wandering band of Jerry Falwell followers. anybody with 2 working synapses can see that the swastikas have been a manner of accusing the Catholics of being Nazis. It became in all hazard completed by some hateful people who concentrated that distinctive Church because of the fact it had an indication up asserting it became a Catholic Church. The Catholic church homes stance that homosexuality is a sin has been extraordinarily heavily publicized over the years. that's basically taking the anti-Catholic mockery of the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence " to a particularly greater point. no longer all offended, hateful, and close minded human beings are at once. What they was hoping to end became what all vandals and protesters was hoping to end...they had to make themselves experience significant.

2016-12-08 10:47:23 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The best way to remove hate is to forgive. If the identity of these boys is known then there should be an effort to involve their parents take them into confidence and give every bit of support and chance for these boys to behave.

Also they need to know that society may forgive them once but may not be able to do so time and again. Tell them that religion is a matter of choice and trying to create tension on religious grounds amounts to being unfaithful to your own god

2006-06-20 01:08:15 · answer #4 · answered by documentary filmmaker 2 · 0 0

If it is simple vandalism it should be the same as for any other building. It would be difficult to establish that it is really a hate crime rather than simply a prank, a foolish and tasteless one though it may be.

2006-06-20 01:03:48 · answer #5 · answered by Vanguard 3 · 0 0

4 years in prison for vandalism??? sorry but i highly doubt that. i don't think it changes the legal situation just because it's a church, it's still just graffiti. of course they should pay for the damage and get a good beating from their parents

2006-06-20 01:05:02 · answer #6 · answered by flösen 3 · 0 0

Same as all other civil and criminal cases. The church doesn't want a punishment above the law. It wants restitution and forgiveness of the perpetrators.

2006-06-20 01:04:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

They should have to pay and clean the damage. I think that maybe working for the church for some hours would help too.

2006-06-20 01:02:10 · answer #8 · answered by bildymooner 6 · 0 0

It should be the same for a church as for any building. Defacing is defacing, bottom line.

2006-06-20 01:04:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The same as defacing any ones property.

2006-06-20 01:02:34 · answer #10 · answered by kritikos43 5 · 0 0

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