how can you people agree with this minister and not all people hit me! REBUTTAL?

Question

what kind of people are on this forum? this minister said people who abuse are justified in kicking your *** and that the abused need to take responsibility for getting their *** kicked for no reason. what kind of retarded nonsense **** is this? yeah im upset cause you people make no sense and have no morals? did oj's wife deserve to die, along with her pets? NO! do children who get beat by their abusive parents black and blue deserve it ? No! thats why there is DCFS to put you scum in check! Do women who end up in domestic/ battered shelters cause it and deserve it? No. Did the peoples of the holocaust deserve that?No Did African americans ask to suffer unbearable abuse by the hands of whites to gain equal rights and right to happiness, liberty & freddom we all deserve ? This is seriously a messed up and sick society that justifies and condones violence of any sort. you people are sick and No I have never hit anyone and never will cause I have sense and morals.

THIS BASTARD CALLED ME A ***** JUST CAUSE I STOOD UP 4 MYSELF. WHAT KIND OF MINISTER/PRIEST IS THIS. PROBABLY THE KIND THAT MOLEST CHILDREN

mysterious
1 hour ago

what do you think of jorginsons answer to my question regarding men hitting women? do u think he is an evil as
shole?. I THINK HE IS EVIL CAUSE I DONT THINK ANYONE SHOULD EVER HIT ANYONE 4 ANY REASON.

ANSWER BY JORGINSON
it seems that you may have a problem that you fail to mention. why are these men hitting you? i suspect that you have a very lousy personality that drives people to hit you. i am not excusing them, it is never right to hit someone, but it probably explains why. your attititude in your question shows that you seem to have a superiority complex and you are also a person who craves pity. both of these traits are very undesirable in a woman. why don't you take responsibility for what you have done instead of blaming others.
no one will ever hit you unless you somehow drive them to it.
i'm sorry i have to tell you this but maybe you should be nice to people, they probably will treat you better then.
this is your real problem. if peop

Answer 1

What minister? Could you add on with whom you are speaking of?

I don't agree with hardly any of them. On any subject.

Out of my own curiosity I did some digging on who you are talking about and what I can tell you is to calm down, because you are letting a complete stranger affect you so negatively. No one knows but you what your circumstances are. You really should let it go. The advice you get on a place like this doesn't determine what you are going to do about your life, now, in the morning, or the next day. This person doesn't know you and what you may or may not be going through.

Answer 2

No REAL minister , a minister who follows Christ in the true sense of the word would think it is acceptable for violence of any type. I question his integrity as a minister.
He evidently is not a whole person considering the response he gave.
I would not take this person seriously because he clearly has issues. I would report him for using abusive language to you. No he did not spell it out, but one can infer what he meant.
He is probably an abuser himself. I feel sorry for his family.

6/19/06 To all: I received a message from "mysterious" accusing me of agreeing with the minister.

"Mysterious" I suggest you RE-READ my message again and again. I did NOTagree with the violence and I did not condone it. Before you go around calling me an idiot, or a crazy broad you need to make sure you have understood the content of my message.
I am reporting your abusive behavior to yahoo. Sounds like you have some abuse issues of your own.

Answer 3

I think he could have phrased it differently. I've been in an abusive relationship in the past. What I know about abusers would tell me that they don't need an excuse (i.e. a lousy personality, according to your answerer) to abuse. They only need someone who will put up with it. The problem (cause) is NOT you. But you can be your own solution, and that is to REMOVE yourself from this type of situation whenever it is in your power to do so. Maybe this is what he was trying to say. It might help you to get some counseling to help you deal with what you've been through. Good luck. It is NEVER ok for a man to hit you!

Answer 4

I don't condone violence of any sort. In todays world, ministers cannot be trusted, I've heard too many news articles.

Most battered women and children do not do anything to deserve getting beaten. My mother and I were both beaten by my father. He was a drug attict and an alcoholic and got very violent for no reason at all. Like it or not, this is a very messed up world.

Answer 5

Whoa......whoa. No one is ever justified in hitting another, period. I don't care if you've slapped your boyfriend because he cheated, or if he slapped you because you did. Or whatever. Hitting should not be tolerated by either party, no matter WHO you are. Abuse is never, EVER justified. For someone to tell you that it is probably the type of woman you are is disgusting. It doesn't matter if you drive someone to hit you. I make my boyfriend mad al lthe time, we have scream fights that could wake the neighborhood and he has NEVER raised a hand to me. Not every woman has traits that are desireable in a woman. Not ever man has traits tha tare desired in a man. Noone should ever justify themselves or condone what they have done if they hit someone. That is ridiculous. Yes, you could be a complete brat, yes you could scream yell, be nasty, mean, intolerable, but that should never EVER excuse someone from hitting you or punching you. EVER.

My 2 cents.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

it is never right to hit women under any circumstance...pushing them off of you or holding them away from you if they are hitting you is understandable, but hitting? no way. just about anyone can be a minister/ priest in some of the "newer religions" or whatever they are so who cares what this person says or thinks.

Answer 8

read it again. i said that no one is justified in hitting you.
i also told you that you have to examine yourself to get to the root cause of what is happening. you seem to have issues. SERIOUS ISSUES. i feel sorry for you. you can take my advice or disregard it. it's your choice. it's your life. nothing ever happens for no reason. i gave you real advice that you can use. being the victim in life is a pathetic thing for someone to do.
being the victim because you are not smart enough to take constructive criticism is even worse. you asked, i answered.
being a professional victim and a drama queen is never gonna get you anywhere.

Answer 9

I dont know who u r talking about but if someone said that they need some serious help. And if this person is a minister shame on them . I dont know what church they belong too, probably one of their own making.

Answer 10

Maybe he isn't really a minister.