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americas goverment was formed under the laws of god yet we have swayed from the path. chrismas is an christian holiday if nonbelivers have a problem with it shouldnt they stop celebrating it instead of complaing about it being happy holidays thats for new years. we dont tell them how to celebrate thier bithdays so why should they tell us christians how to celebrate jesus bithday. there is christ in christmas for a reason.

2006-06-17 04:12:32 · 28 answers · asked by jessie 1 in Society & Culture Holidays Christmas

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YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
It is not a pagan holiday and non-believers have NO RIGHT to celebrate or to try and change this Holiday to suit there needs, for it is 'OUR' (Christians) religious Holiday after all.

p.s. James P. All of the founding fathers were Christians. Furthermore; the observation of a Federal Holiday has nothing to do with govt and laws but merely that the majority of the public (claim to be Christian) want the Holidays to be observed. (hence when it is deemed a Federal Holiday, people are not forced to work on those particular days. i.e. Martin Luther King Day, Easter, July 4th, Kwanzaa, Good Friday, etc. they are preserved for a myriad of faiths and observances! So, they should not be changed for any reason. I just find it ironic that so many faiths outside of the Christian faith celebrate this Holiday. You will not find a 'true' Christian that observes another faiths holiday!

2006-06-17 04:19:18 · answer #1 · answered by Blanca Monster 2 · 0 0

This is a good question with just a few mistakes.

First off, The United States government was not created under the laws of God, at least not in the sense in which most Americans today think of God. Most of the delegates framing the constitution were Quaker (certainly not one of the Christian sects viewed as mainstream these days) however, the actual people working on the crafting of the constitution were mostly not Christian at all.

As for Christmas, The date of Christmas was chosen because that was the date when the ancient Pagans celebrated the birth of their God of light, and so Christians chose it as the date of the birth of their God of light. There is no historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was born December 25th. There is evidence that the date was chosen to coincide with the ancient Pagan celebrations.

Modern Pagans continue to celebrate the day as Yule, one of the eight days in their wheel of the year consisting of Candlemas (ground hog day) Spring equinox, May Day, Summer Solstice, Lammas, Fall equinox, Halloween, and Yule.

2006-06-18 16:20:58 · answer #2 · answered by j_doggie_dogg 6 · 0 0

Scripture doesn't mention Jesus's birthdate or any christians celebrating His Birthday. The only birthday mentioned besides Pharoah is the heathen king Herod. "Christmas" means "mass of Christ"; the celebration coexisted in Rome before there was any in Jerusalem. The early Roman Church however did establish a pagan festival that (Jer.10) coexisted with Jesus's Birth and that was the birthday of the sun god. (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th ed., article: "Christmas"). The Catholic sources admit that Christmas didn't co-exist with the earliest festivals. Jesus wasn't born Christmas; even scripture makes this evident. "On the night of Jesus's birth, the shepherd's were still keeping watch over their flocks." (Luke 2:8). The rainy season in Ancient Israel began after the Feast of Tabernacles which generally is early October. In November, it would be cool and wet; the flocks from the pasture had already been brought and kept in winter quarters by the shepherds. This tells us the shepherds were no longer in the fields at night. Another peice of evidence is overlooked is in Luke 1:35-36; it tells us John the Baptist was born to Mary's cousin Elizabeth six months before Jesus. And as we look further in verse 5-17, we see Zacharias an elderly priest burning incense on the altar and then an angel appearing to him and telling him that he and his wife would have a son to prepare Christ's Way. We know however when this announcement was made by the angel because of Zacharias was "of the course of Abijah" Please look at 1Chron.24:1-19; it tells us that King David divided these priests into 24 "courses" that served in the temple by rotation. The Course of Abijah would be the 8th of the 24 courses which usually would occur around the end of May. Pentecost came the week after the 8th course served and he had to serve all 24 courses during the three festival seasons. So Zacharias came home approximately after the first week of June; in which John the Baptist was conceived around mid-June and 9 months later would be his birth. John Baptist's birth came around mid-March while Jesus's was around mid-September. Also notice every year people claim 3 wise men seen Jesus in a stable; is this really true? The Bible nowhere states "3 wise men" or "that the wise men visited Jesus in a stable". Read for yourself: (Matt.2:11); these Magi came from the east beyond the Euphrates River which in the 1st century was called the Parthian Empire (the eastern border of the Roman Empire).

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2006-06-19 06:43:51 · answer #3 · answered by KNOWBIBLE 5 · 0 0

Actually, I have to tell you that the Pagans were celebrating the 'Holidays' before Christianity was a formal religion. If you care to do your research Easter, Halloween and Christmas were origianally on the Pagan calendar but not as those Holidays. When the Christians decided that Pagans were evil-doers they converted the Pagan days of celebration to Christian holidays to suit their needs.
As for non-believers...it depends on what you consider as a non-believer. Additionally, no, they shouldn't stop celebrating Christmas any more than you should. What you need to do is learn tolerance of other's beliefs and get over it.

2006-06-20 00:42:09 · answer #4 · answered by LDYDRGN 2 · 1 0

Yuletide...Winter solttuse...all come to one event...the celebration of the Birth of Christ. As each celebration was discovered by the christian church, it was in some way addapted into the local church customs and some spread further then others.

Those who ***** and complain will no doubt be involied with the whole gift giving thing, and would feel greatly rejected if they were giftless, and perhaps that is why they are giftless. Remember the famous Dicken's Novel ' A Christmas Carol'?

Bp. David

2006-06-18 01:01:32 · answer #5 · answered by Bishop David F. Milne DD 3 · 0 0

I get a tree and lights and am not a Christian. My tree and lights celebrate the winter solstice. These traditions are Pagan traditions that were "borrowed" by Christians. Maybe you should get rid of your tree and lights. December was chosen to overshadow pagan celebrations. In essence, Christians did these things to suit themselves.


The term Happy Holidays is for everyone. Believe it or not, it's not all about you and your beliefs. Who tells you how to celebrate? Or are you just upset once again that you are not the center of the universe like you thought?

2006-06-18 01:24:24 · answer #6 · answered by KathyS 7 · 0 0

Originally, Christmas was known as "Yule". It was a pagan holiday of Northern and Western Europe to celebrate the winter solstice, i.e., the days getting longer and the coming of spring. It's name was changed to "Christmas" in order to ease the conversion of pagans to Christianity. So the correct question for you to ask is, "Should Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on a pagan holiday"? After all, it was theirs first!

2006-06-17 04:22:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Christmas as we know it is a so called "card company" holiday when retailers depend on a holiday to put them selves in the "black" I can see your dilema. I have to concur with the pagan opinion that Christmas is the Winter Solstice and Yule Tide transformed by the Christians of yesteryear to be Christ birthday. Now we have transformed that as a society into Wall Streets dream season.

2006-06-17 16:13:00 · answer #8 · answered by Hetti_B 2 · 1 0

actually America's government was formed under English laws, in fact, the framers even included a clause that prevents the government from embracing religion....look into that. Don't blame people for the fact that Christmas isn't all about religion anymore, blame the stores, businesses, and all that. Finally, nobody tells you how to live your life, so get over it. Actually Christians are the ones who usually judge others harshly.

2006-06-17 04:18:50 · answer #9 · answered by James P 6 · 1 0

Actually blancamonster James P was right....the framers did not base our laws on God. Committing adultry isn't against the law now is it? He did not say they weren't Christians, in fact everybody knows they were, so jump down from your high horse. The establishment clause has nothing to do with keeping Christians happy, it has to do with keeping the entire population happy. And not everybody in the United States of America is a Christian, so run on back to church and pray for our souls.

2006-06-17 06:14:39 · answer #10 · answered by kj 7 · 0 0

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