with all due respect to parents, why bring a new life to the high probability of suffering? also death, sure?

Question

Honestly I guess it would be beautiful, being a Parent, if one is a good one; However, and with all due respect to everyone including parents, I sincerely ask: could you give me a little more less affective reason of why bring a new life to the high probability of suffering and the certainty of death? In order to answer, consider me a man of no religious faith, please. I guess I read something about the pride of success, but what about the failure of your child? All reasons given to me deal about how a parent feel not about the Happiness or well being of your child, something I believe no Parent can be certain his son or daugther will have or for how long; Today, I feel with no guilt, people tell me goodfeedback too. This ain't enough,because good decisions make character, that move to relieve but not to happiness (one never cease to need, but by not being born at all then one doesn't need. So no joy or comfort won't harm; One day we,humans will die; Then again Why? thanks you

"life is hard" "No pain no gain"... but hey "life is a gift" and "life is precious"...
Isn't all this a little contradfictory? How would you feel If I gave you a "hard time" with pain as a gift? Does the end justify the means? note: it is not a sin or crime to be a parent but, do this means we shouldn't care about the future well being of those new humansthat might fail in making this a better world for others or themselves?-
failure that the same world manage to give to our children of the future.Today, I feel with no guilt, people tell me good feedback too. This ain't enough, because good decisions make character, that move to relieve but not to happiness (one never cease to need, but by not being born at all then one doesn't need. So no joy or comfort won't harm; One day we,humans will die;by the time you relieve some suffering, it won't be long before another issue,come,giving you trouble again. In the meantime, your Well being and happiness gauge diminish itself; Then again Why?

A life should be free, not a thing you should own

Notice that I'm not talking about suicide, but about never being born or cese to exist: Is no the same To died Implies a risky and fearful decision, and it would be a remedy, but to not exist doesn't involve consecuences (I may not be religious but maybe there is a Non-God-involved afterlife, who knows?

Answer 1

Yes it is truly beautiful to be a parent, all things on earth go thru suffering.... which makes us stronger. But with all that suffering there's happiness, laughter, love, and joy.Nothing in this life is certain, that's why it's called life. We can only have hope and try to make sure as a parent we bring happiness to the future of our children.

Answer 2

I used to think as you do. The world was such a mess, and humanity seemed to be getting more stupid with each generation. I had suffered a lot of pain as a child and didn't want to subject a child to all of this.
Then one day I was thinking about how I would raise a child to think differently than the sheep that were being raised by most people. It suddenly occured to me that if I didn't have a child to pass my ideals and dreams on to, then they would not last after I passed. And if I wanted the world to have a chance to become stable, sane and strong and I thought that my ideas might make it that way, then I had to have children to do it with!
I had two beautiful and bright children and have never regretted it although I have seen them go through some very painful experiences which have made them very strong. They are worthwhile people who add goodness to the world and that is reason enough, don't you think?

Besides, pain is not something to be avoided at all cost. It is a teacher, a guide and sometimes a friend when it helps you avoid something that would REALLY do you harm.

Answer 3

Why?

What says it is your decision?

You want a reason for life that doesn't start with the wishes of the parents to have a child, to see tat child grow up and take teir place in the world, or not.

I say maybe the child wants to be born.

You can't say otherwise, though many try and sound stupid doing so. "I never asked to be born!" How do you know? How far back can you remember, first grade, Kindergarten, Pre School? I doubt you can remember back in the womb.

What says that your soul did not exist before your body? That you existed before you were born? You are think on a physical plane. What of a metaphysical plane? Is it possible to have life without a body? If so you could have wanted to be alive and you chose to be born. It could happen.

If it did happen, who are your parents to stand in your way? Why should they be allowed to stop you from being born? The world is cruel, so; they should be cruel. People die, so; you should never live. Things are not fair, so; they should just throw up their hands and give up. What kind of defeatest garbage is this?

You are born, you live, you die. That is the cycle of life as we know it. What else is out there we don't know.

We know we have sex and sex leads to pregnancy and more people being in this world. We know that sex is good, or so it seem, enjoyable, or so it seems. Maybe you want people to forget about sex. Then there will be no more babies, people will grow out and die and the planet will go to some other species, assuming of course that we are not a necessary species to the planet's survival. If we are the planet dies too. Whatever it is that we keep from destroying the planet goes unchecked and the planet dies. But you would be okay with that so long as suffering ended. I hope you are not a doctor.

Suffering is an emotion like hatred or love. It is perceived in the mind of the perceiver. It doesn't exist in the sense that it is permanent or immutable. You can change your perception. You can turn happiness into sadness and back again.

You can have a wonderful life. Frank Kapra got that one right. Each life touches many other lives and though it may seem that you are suffering, you may be the only thing standing in between one person suffering and the whole world suffering. You never know.

Dostoyefsky asked in Brothers Karamazoff "If you could save the world form all its pain and suffering but in order to do so you had to torture to death one innocent child, that baby beating his hand against his breast, could you be the architect of such a world under those auspices?" I think not.

You are under the delusion that abortions are ethical because what was ended was never begun. They call it viability. they prefer it to quickening. What if you are wrong? Could you kill a baby? Could you kill a human?

Frankenstien, written by Mary Shelley after her miscarriage tells the story of a hideous looking creature she thought of as an abomination. It wanted a mate. The doctor tried to create one but repulsed by the idea tore her up. The monster grew agree and destroyed the castle. The doctor case him to the ends of the earth and when it was over died in the Monster's arms. Read between the lines. Avoiding making a mistake twice leaves you stuck only with the memory of your first mistake. Not too comforting when you are laying there dying.

Another story, Dracula, poses a character of no redeeming qualities and as im preying on goodly females, men got eaten, women got turned, and turned into similar creatues for wom killing was good and not killing was bad. The question is would you kill him and them or not, chopt their heads off, stuff their mouths with garlic and ram a stake through their hearts then bury the pieces in separate graves. Could you do it? Remember even if what you are looking at is the worst type of evil if it is related to you, and or you love it, it is near impossible to want to kill it. Suffering or not.

You figure it out. Do you have the heart to do what not having children may cause you to do or have done? It's up to you but don't think that you are the only one being affected by your decision. It's like dropping a stone in a pond of water. There will be ripples.

Answer 4

If you live now and love or even just like anything in the world it would be a shame to deprive such a beautiful experience to a potential life. So, i guess its how you look at life. All life must die but why lite the candle if its going to fade out but to illuminate the world around and admire the beauty of the flame.
This is a strange original way of approaching The Meaninf Of Life question.
Interesting.

Answer 5

Because our greatest hope is in our children -- it is true when they say the children are the future -- without them humans would die off. Why does it all have to be happy times? I have suffered horribly -- abusive folks, lost a child, major health problems -- but I still believe that the good outweighs the bad. Maybe our kids can get it right? Who knows!

Answer 6

greed, selfishness.... covering up the selfishness by just saying bad things and uncertainty area part of life and with out the hardiships its not really a life....... parents, i think, just get caught up in the hopefull divine beauty the thought of a new life can create and become blind to (for a time) the fact that suffering is inevitable. No parent, no person who creats dwells on the creations potential destruction but rather on its potential beuty and growth.

at least thats what i think... but then again i'm not a parent so perhaps I am wrong....

Answer 7

Um, yeah, we all die. Thanks for pointing that out. We never would have realized it otherwise.

So, why would you create a child knowing it will die?

Because you brought a new soul on to the Earth. A new creation. You know, a child.

Yeah, it is mortal. Go figure. But it is yours to raise and teach, and you know, you are likely to be dead long before it is.

Um, all species are mortal. Even cockroaches, though they are damned hard to kill off.

If you do not procreate, you stop existing as a species.

How it goes. Evolution is even crueler than God.

You have the kids because that is what you were hard wired to do. By God. To propagate the species.

Sorry, but that is the reason.

-Dio

Answer 8

of course everyone will die at some point, and we never know what our lives may turn out to be, but isn't it better to ride the horse and fall off then to never ride at all and wonder what if? forever. I guess I am trying to say no one has a crystal ball to see into the future, but at least a baby will have a future if someone decides to have one.

Answer 9

For the same reason you have not killed yourself.

You claim to be a non believer.

What keeps you then from stop "suffering"?

Answer 10

I believe it's purely down to our natural instinct to reproduce. Nothing more, nothing less. We are, after all still predominantly Animals.