What do you think about the NFL making a rule change so that their precious Carson Palmer will know they care?

Question

The league made a rule that will go into effect this coming season so that defensive players can't hit QB's below the knee. It was made because Carson Palmer, their favorite USC alum didn't make it to the Super Bowl like they wanted him to. Another agenda of the league is to see a black coach make it to the Super Bowl and win it, and since Palmer got hurt that ruined Marvin Lewis's chances of that last year. Of course, the league is saying that they are doing it to "protect all of their QB's", but it's all for USC's Palmer and his minority coach whom they want to give better than the same chance that every other coach in the league has of winning. You don't believe me that they are pushing the agenda for black coaches? Well why are they touting Herman Edwards all the time when he only has a career record of 41-44 overall? I will say that Marvin Lewis is a good coach, but the main reason why they are hyping him more is because he has the most likely chance of winning now, not later.

Yes you are

He's a quarterback which means he's still on the field playing like anyone else. I'm not saying to hit them their intentionally. I'm saying not to make special cream-puff rules for them just because you want to see them succeed. Everyone else risks injury, don't give QB's special treatment.

What's next, telling our soldiers that they can't shoot to kill the enemy, just shoot to injure him? lmao When did the pussification of America start and when will it end?

You tell 'em Steelers chick, lol. Don't make special rules for specific people. No one should get preferential treatment. Serious injuries happen and that's the chance they take to make the big bucks. It should be the same for every player at every position, no special rules for protection.

It's even been nick-named by many as the "Carson Palmer rule." What's next, are they gonna ask quarterbacks to wear a padded jump-suit under their uniforms so that when they hit the ground it doesn't hurt? What a joke!

Dungy, is a great coach, but he just can't get over the hump for some reason. Their problem with him is that he isn't coaching a black QB, Tom Brady (a Michigan grad.), or a USC grad like "Poster-boy" Palmer. Also, he's too vocal of a Christian, they hate that too.

Bull s.h.i.t, Shades, they beat the Bengals earlier in the season by two touchdowns.

Spudric, I'm not discounting him because he's black, I merely think that the NFL is over-hyping him because he's black so that they don't appear to be racists. They do the same thing with black quarterbacks, they do all that they can to promote them so that they don't appear to be racists. As far as I'm concerned, quit all of the shameless butt-kissing and sucking up to someone because of their color or ethnic background and just let them prove how good they are on the field.

The media is just looking for a story so they can say how a black coach or quarterback has over-come all sorts of things, and the league is trying to look good because they gave them the opportunity.

Answer 1

ahhhhh...boo fuuckin' hoo!! a great team is one who can over come losses and bad calls and still make it to the 'BIG DANCE' they obviously couldn't bounce back so therefore didn't deserve to make it...the NFL is stupid for making a change like that anyone who watched the game could clearly see that kimo was falling and could not stop himself and rolled into carsons knee...what a fuuckin' loser cry baby they're never gonna make it anywhere with a pansy leading the team!!!

Answer 2

Well, about the rule, I think it's a good one. I believe it was a cheap shot and done intentionally. I don't care if he played for the Bengals before or not, it was a cheap shot. As for Palmer's whining, I hate whiners (remember Nancy Kerrigan "Why Me?" I was glad she was hit in the leg), but it was still unnecessary. Quarterbacks are left out to dry and can't always defend themselves. I know teams need to block the defense, but there have been to many injuries like this in the history of the league (i.e. Joe Theisman's snapped leg on Monday Night by LT) and they should have said something about this sooner. I know it's a hard game and a game of hitting, but even the big guys like Culpepper get hurt and if too many team's quarterbacks get hurt, then ticket sales will go down, and we know it all boils down to money. I think it has nothing to do with what school he went to. USC has had some great players, and it's just a coincidence. As for the league wanting black coaches to win, I think that's just racist nonsense. I believe the league has no preference for the color of a coaches skin. People are people and I wish people would stop focusing on people's skin color as reasons to like or dislike them. There have been some good black coaches and some bad. I think there are a lot more good ones out there that will come in and do a good job just as any white coach. What about Marty Schottenheimer and all those chokes in the playoffs? How many chances is Norv Turner going to get? Dave Wannstedt? If you are only going to look at all things black, then your racism will win out. Why was Art Shell fired after going 54-38? Then, he was never given another chance? That's nonsense. I think that if the league really wanted the Bengals in the Super Bowl, it would have been to prove the NFL has parity, not for a black coach to get there. Marvin Lewis is a good coach and for you to discount him for his color is straight up racist. If really good white coaches were being passed up so that black coaches can get jobs, then I could understand, but that's not reality. The reality is a lot of retreads get hired that aren't that good and they are mostly white. I am not saying Herman Edwards is a great coach, but there have been coaches with much worse records that have gone to new teams. Sometimes they win with their new teams (Marv Levy was 31-46 with KC before he signed with Buffalo) and sometimes the lose (Norv Turner was 49-59 with Washington before going to the Raiders and, well, that was just bad). How will Edwards fair? We'll see. I think Marvin Lewis is a good enough coach to win for many years. Why do you have to discount him because he is black?

Answer 3

Wow...where to begin...

First off, you have to realize one thing...the people with power in America care not about black or white, but about green. Do not fool yourself into thinking any of these moves has to do with someone wanting their boy to succeed...if Palmer can't play or if Roethlisberger (who is more marketable that Palmer and he has a white coach) can't return from the facial injuries, they'll slap someone else in, push his image so you buy his jersey. And black coaches? There are 4 out of 32...that is 12.5% the same as the percentage blacks make up of our population, so where is the skewed stat? Herm was hyped because he worked in NY and was a media darling...if you asked the fans, most of us Jet fans were tired of his act long ago. Pennington was the same media prima donna. They have a rule to try to keep "minority" not just black, candidates in the mix for coaching openings, but teams routinely get around this or just interview guys with no intention of hiring them.
Also, if you were an owner of a $500 million business that is known worldwide, would you hire some unqualified person to run the ship just because of some quota? If you honestly believe that, I have to believe you are not someone with management experience or potential. Only someone who has no understanding of business would assume anyone who was savvy enough to earn the half billion for a football team would be so weak as to let someone else tell them who to hire...that's just ignorance. What about Ray Rhodes or Art Shell? These were black coaches who were fired after achieving a reasonable degree of success. Ray Rhodes was fired at Green Bay because he is a raving lunatic and Art Shell wanted to enforce discipline on a Raider team which languishes in it's own undisciplined badboy image that causes them to lead the league each year in penalties. How does firing a successful black coach at two of the most well known teams that push the agenda?
Don't be fooled, dude. As long as you look at the world that way, the rich white, black, yellow and red guys will all be slapping each other on the back while they spend your money together...

Answer 4

Specious reasoning at best. The problem of defensive backs taking out QB's "at the knees" has been chronic within the NFL. But, like the "horse-collar" tackle, it took a particularly gruesome injury for the league to do something about it.
Palmer is lucky that his knee was repairable and he can continue to play. The next player to take that kind of hit may not have been as lucky.
I suppose you'd be in favor of removing the Roughing the Passer and Roughing the Kicker rules as well?

Answer 5

I would think if they were going to make a rule like that it would have come after Joe Theissman's broken leg, that was a "gruesome" injury. I don't know about the hyping of black coaches, but new rules are crap. This is the way the game has been played for a long, long time, why does it have to change. If we are going to hype any black coach, it should be Tony Dungy.

Answer 6

I don't think they're just catering to Palmer because it effects all QBs. Yes, the rule change was brought up after his incident but the new rule doesn't change the past. How does the rule change give him anymore advantage than anyone else?! This is not a special rule for special people....it is for ALL QBs. QBs are notoriously pampered...this is no exception. I think you're reading way too much into this. I don't necessarily think it's a great rule, but I don't think it's a great travesty.

Answer 7

True I agree. There's bias in the NFL. Rush Limbaugh was right about Mcnabb. You're black and you have to play better because everyone is looking at you. The hit on Palmer was accident. It's a tough sport, NFL.

I would support the new rule though, for QB's sake.

Answer 8

Ok I'm a steelers fan first of all and i watched that hit over and over and my conclusion is yes it was a dirty hit yes it is considered "cheap" but you know what Palmer's gotta stop crying and just play the game. If he doesn't want to get hit below the knees don't play. In my opinion it's a dumb rule and just because one player complains the NFL has to cater to one premoddona

Answer 9

I disagree with you. I don't think the NFL instated this rule just for Carson Palmer. I think the NFL instated this rule because too many quarterbacks were getting the unfair boot. And something tells me you do not like Cincinnati.

Answer 10

Great rule, only way the Steelers made the Super Bowl

Answer 11

Hitting below the knees or at the knees just to hurt the other player is unacceptable....Black, white, blue or any other color doesn't matter....it could be a career ending injury