American democracy no longer exists, as such America has no authority to enforce democracy elsewhere.?

Question

My point is that America is a plutocracy(governed by the wealthy) who fix elections, manufacture consent, invade other countries in the name of a freedom it itself lacks. Therefore, American policing of corrupt states is as valid as a criminal policing the streets. It has NO moral authority.

i might add after reading the first 8 questions that i'm a hard working citizen who votes regularly in a country thats NOT America and i find no problem with American culture, it holds great promise. It is the present corruption in the hierarchy which i find disturbing because it deprives a great country of a great leadership. And endangers the world with its unwise foreign policies. We who are untouched by your wars, by your domestic policies still feel the effects and still wonder why there are not more critics enough to challenge the possible illigitimacy of a government whose aims have been immoral and uncaring to the world at large and to its own people. Apologies if i've caused offence but this is how i see it,
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Answer 1

There's a great song by Leonard Cohen that addresses your issue. He's implying that Democracy never really was there but its going to appear there before anywhere else. Us Canadians have our disagreements with the USA but we also understand the same thing that they do. Freedom is a difficult road to travel but its worth the twists and turns and all the pain and sacrifice:

Democracy

Its coming through a hole in the air,
from those nights in Tiananmen Square.
It's coming from the feel
that ain't exactly real,
or its real, but it ain't exactly there.
From the wars against disorder
from the sirens night and day
from the fires of the homeless
from the ashes of the gay:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

It's coming through a crack in the wall;
on a visionary flood of alcolhol;
from the staggering account
of the Sermon on the Mount
which I don't pretend to understand at all.
Its coming from the silence
on the dock of the bay,
from the brave, the bold, the battered
heart of Chevrolet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Its coming from the sorrow on the street,
the holy places where the races meet:
from the homicidal bitchin
that goes down in every kitchen
to determine who will serve and who will eat.
From the wells of disappointment
where the women kneel to pray
for the grace of God in the desert here
and the desert far away:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Sail on, sail on
O mighty Ship of State
to the Shores of Need
Past the Reefs of Greed
Through the Squalls of Hate
Sail on, sail on, sail on...

Its coming to America first
the cradle of the best and of the worst
Its here they got the range
and the machinery for change
and its here they got the spiritual thirst
Its here the family's broken
and its here the lonely say
that the heart has got to open
in a fundamental way:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Its coming from the women and the men
O baby, we'll be making love again.
We'll be going down so deep
that the river's going to weep
and the mountains going to shout Amen!
Its coming like a tidal flood
beneath the lunar sway,
imperial, mysterious,
in amorous array:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

I'm sentimental if you know what I mean
I love the country but I can't stand the scene
And I'm neither left nor right
I'm just staying home tonight
getting lost in that hopeless little screen
But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags
that Time cannot decay
I'm junk but I'm still holding up
this little wild bouquet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Answer 2

I totally agree! It's all about money, pure and simple. If I remember correctly, Deep Throat said, "Money talks, bulls**t walks." Regardless of what some may say, it is patently obvious that Bush stole the election in 2000. And not only that, but there is evidence suggesting that the 2004 election was rigged, as well. Iraq has one of the largest oil reserves in the world, so it's obvious why we're over there. After all, don't you think that if Bush really gave a damn about the security of our country and about seeking justice for the 3,000 people who died in the 9/11 attacks, that Osama bin Laden would have been caught by now and that we wouldn't be at war with a country that wasn't in any way involved in the attacks? You might also be interested to know that not too long ago, Sandra Day O'Connor said that we were slowly moving towards a dictatorship. When a Republican-appointed former Supreme Court justice says something like that, you know we're in trouble!

Answer 3

What, prey tell, is moral authority? Who issues such a thing? Who revokes it?

I would question anyone who thought they had moral authority. Because this where the origin of our domestic and foreign problems come from.

You say that we are run by the rich, possible. But who shared this info with you? A sad result of democracy is that sometimes people don't understand how specific candidates get elected and then people cry foul. As much as I dislike it, President Bush was fairly and legally elected, whining won't help.

ex: Many protested when Gore lost his presidential bid. Had he managed to carry Tennessee, Florida would not have mattered. He couldn't and didn't.

That we are in a conflict where we don't belong is self evident. It is a sad and miserable reality. We will be judged for it. However, to deny that EVERY country has done this is, is pathetic and cowardly.

Well the nice thing about democracies is that one can make poorly thought out statements without feeling the repercussions.

Answer 4

I couldn't agree more. But, as far as fixed elections go, I think the bigger problem is a general ignorance of the part of the majority of the population. Think about this: even though support for the war in Iraq has been declining, the government is showing absolutely no sign of withdrawing. Instead, we're constantly mollified with totally ridiculous statements that "we're making progress" - while I would be curious to know how on earth we're making progress if more and more troops die, if Mr. Rumsfeld doesn't see a problem with our troops don't having enough Kevlar vests to protect them, and we've long since overstayed our welcome there. Yet when you talk to people, you hear them reiterate the exact same BS and it just makes you wonder: do they even know what they're saying or are they just brainwashed by the media?

Answer 5

Why isn't America a democracy any more? Because your candidate lost? If Kerry were in there, would it be better for you? I vote and I'm happy with who we have. If my candidate had lost, I'd be respectful of the President because he's the President and I wouldn't go around insulting people all the time and lying about what goes on. Get real!

Answer 6

Well I am so happy for you that you aren't saddled with our immorality. I hope all is well in your moral country. It would be a shame if anything should ever cause you to have need of us the corrupt. Have a great day.

Answer 7

The beauty of a democracy is that we vote in who we want to represent us. If we vote in rich greedy people, then we do, It's our fault.

And on the whole conversion thing, people need to find out what to do themselves. You can't push a belief on someone who dosen't wish to believe.

Answer 8

Be careful we may decide to invade you!

Answer 9

I voted tuesday...

Only poor, lazy people say things like this guy....

Answer 10

Your weird