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It can't just infinitely cycle on and on.

2006-06-14 13:37:47 · 48 answers · asked by nodirectionhome1981 1 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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If God was created He wouldn't be God. By definition,God is
the Creator,not the created.
As for infinitely cycling on and on-are you sure it's not possible?
A lot of things go in cycles-evaporation is an example of that.
We have a linear perception of reality-from beginning to end-
but what if that's just a reflection of our own limitations?

2006-06-14 13:45:48 · answer #1 · answered by Alion 7 · 1 0

Man,

and the cycle has ended.

To presume the existence of God, and believe what is written about him, then we presume that God always was, infinitely. It is stated, that God is timeless, so to understand God's origin is to wrap your mind around timelessness. Your brain functions on time, so how do we eliminate the concept of time? By this, he is infinitely now. In the infinite moment.

Also, to presume the existence of God, and accepting that he was around forever and ever and ever, one would also have to assume, that he's created man in the past, infinitely, and will infinitely create us in the future, because eternity brings an eternal amount of possibilities, considering we and the remainder of the universe are a collection of finite particles. Infinite amount of possibilities, and repetition would be inevitable.

What a strange thought to assume that this weren't the case and that God was floating around in an infinite void for all eternity before ever having given mankind and the universe an origin. That means that he was alone, unless his angels always were forever as well. He was around forever, being something, amongst nothing else. His thoughts are completely everything.

Can God go mad? Has he gone mad? Are we some sort of sick joke, an insane Lord has played, to entertain himself?

God is everything and anything, because there is nothing aside from him, therefore being responsible for supposed evil, and Lucifer himself, since everything that the devil is presumed to be, stemmed solely from the supreme being.

All in all, if the origin of God could be contributed to one source, I feel that source is completely and no other than,

man,

and the cycle has ended.

2006-06-14 14:06:00 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This isn't exactly an answer; just an observation. Every answer I can imagine (whether or not it's correct) points to something incomprehensible to me. Assuming that there was a creator (God), either He has existed forever or He had a creator and either that creator existed forever or he/she/it had a creator ad infinitum. Other answers seem even more bizarre - e.g. He just sprang out of nothingness. You can even take God out of the picture (e.g. if you're an atheist) and it's the same. Either the cosmos (everything) was created (and therefore had a creator) or it existed in some form forever. Even going back to the Big Bang (if you believe in that), something existed before that - something that exploded in the Big Bang. Either that, or there was no time before that. What does that mean - no time? Physicists may be able to express that mathematically, but it's still incomprehensible experientially for humans, or at least for this human.

2006-06-14 14:27:51 · answer #3 · answered by pollux 4 · 0 0

We can count 1, 2, 3, etc. But we cannot perceive what infinity is. The same thing applies here. Even if we are told X created God, we would ask again who created X, and on and on.

If we believe that mathematically there is such a number as infinity, then we should also believe there is such a thing as an ultimate God.

Where God is an ocean, human is a drop of water. The ocean knows all about the drop, but the drop cannot perceive the ocean.

2006-06-14 14:21:10 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God is only necessary if you believe that (a) the world is as Descartes says [see Cartesian dualism], and / or you believe that determinism is false. If you believe that determinism is false, then you NEED a first instance, and for most this is equated with god. Duelism has to do with the mind/body problem, and requires an abstract 'mind' that is a different entity than the brain, as opposed to the physicalism side which is much simpler in terms of determining how the mind interacts with the physical world that we experience.
You say that it can't cycle infinitely. I say it is definately possible. Who is right?
We may never know.

2006-06-14 14:39:13 · answer #5 · answered by mike 3 · 0 0

God, for many, does not need to be created. "The Creator" can not be created.... But, this does bring up many questions. How can something create itself. It could not have been omnipotent before it existed, so, how did it create itself if it was not omnipotent?? It couldn't have... therefore either IT had a creator, who had a creator, who had a creator... OR... it never existed in the first place.

God is a fallacy in itself. NOTHING (no matter how powerful) can be these three things: Omnipotent, Omniscient, and all good at the same time!!! Yes, it is the religious people who say God is all loving. BUT they say that he is all knowing and all powerful at the same time. NO BEING CAN BE ALL GOOD AND ALL POWERFUL AT THE SAME TIME when innocent newborns are being raped and murdered!!

2006-06-14 14:18:08 · answer #6 · answered by I *Heart* Plato 2 · 0 0

It's funny how everyone jumps on these God questions as if they knew what people really mean by God. Ask ten people what God is and they are sure to come up with ten different answers. People who jump on these questions automatically assume reference is being made to the Judeo-Christian God concept.
There is much more to the God concept than what Christianity or any of the other Abrahamic religions have fed the world.
So, to the question...Who created God?, I'd say.. what God? ..which God?

2006-06-14 14:37:09 · answer #7 · answered by manisthemeasure 2 · 0 0

EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION!!! honestly this is not something I thought myself, but the other day I was talking with my friends about this...and I came up with a very good answer...and I've sticked with it till this day...though, don't get me wrong...but, sometimes I wake up asking that question to myself, even though I have faith in the one answered for me, which goes like this: "Son...why does humanity believes everything has to be created and everything has to have an end...you always see it in the movies... "The sorcerers stone" well...it is believed to give eternal life...so...if people believe in this, why can't they believe in the opposite? if there is such thing as something not having an end...then...possibly, there is something that doesn't have a beginning neither; which means, that God was never created, BUT HE ALWAYS EXISTED," so probably: "not everything has to have a beginning or a start point" just have faith...(not with all due) but I try...at least in this issue. Hope you enjoyed my answer...it's not the best...but sort of "logical".

2006-06-14 13:59:14 · answer #8 · answered by yag1891 1 · 0 0

This question poses a problem.

In my limited view of the ultimate reality, I see it as this:
If you are created, you are created at a certain point in time. Right? But what is time?
Time is the preception of the fourth diminsion, that is all; it is an illusion. Your existance on earth begins when you are born and continues through space until you die; it's like a timeline. However, this "timeline" only exists within four-diminsional space; transcend the fourth-diminsion and there is no time, all time is but a point.
Now, God is out there, but not confined to the fourth diminsion. If God does not exist in time, how can he be created?

2006-06-14 14:15:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You are correct in seeing the infinite regression absurdity of having things create other things without anything being the final creator. God is the first and final Creator. As such, He was not created. He always was. This is shown even in the name God gives Himself in Exodus: "I AM."

2006-06-18 09:35:16 · answer #10 · answered by mle_trogdor2000 2 · 0 0

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