You are making a big acusation......are you talking about one denomination in particular. I agree that is the case with a denomination I am familiar with.....but tell me what reason would Pagans have for celebrating Christmas?
2006-06-14 12:07:59
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answered by Laz 1
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They did that for the sole purpose of converting the pagans. Since they did not have any real religious holidays of their own, they decided to use those of the Pagans. They even chose Dec 25. because it is the birthday of Mithras the sun god (son get the pic?). They figured that if they make celebrations that coincided with the pagans it would be easier.
Here is the Holiday break down:
Christmas = Yule, winter solstice, the rebirth of the sun.
Easter = Oester, Germanic fertility goddess symbols, blue bird eggs, the hare. Fertility and rebirth of the earth
The only holiday they didn't take was Halloween or Samhain. What is funny is they are now calling it Harvest Festival. That is what it is in the first place LOL.
The bible does not in any of its pages contain any holiday except for passover and the sater dinner (the last supper). That is why some denominations do not celebrate them. Even our pilgrim forefathers refused to celebrate Christmas, due to the pagan influences
Christmas is loaded with them: Christmas tree: druidic symbol of everlasting life and holy tree in their calendar.
Decorations on tree: druidic practice as well
Holly wreaths: Crown of the Holly King the male spirit in control of the winter.
I can go on and on.
Bottom line: they were not original, and never will be.
2006-06-23 07:57:59
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answered by ldyrhiannon 4
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Well, the big one you are probably referring to is Christmas. The problem was that long ago when Christianity was spreading into Pagan populations, the Pagans mixed some of their beliefs with Christianity. In some cases when a civilization was mixed with Christians, Christian law ruled the pagan holidays to be replaced by Christian ones giving the holiday a Pagan date but a Christian celebration. As time progressed this was clearly over looked and the dates of holidays such as Christmas fell on the wrong day. Religious scholars and most Christians know that Jesus was not born on December 25th, but they still celebrate this event, which is more important. A lot of the problems stem from the old power hungry, corrupt Catholic church (not to bash Catholics), which based a lot of Laws and theories on popular opinion. But trust me, Christianity was just in overriding some of the darker Pagan holidays and beliefs. A primitive example is seen with some tribes playing a game similar to basket ball with the head of a slave. Or better yet A man infected with AIDS having sex with young virgins because a witch doctor told him that it would cure him.
2006-06-27 20:22:18
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answered by browning.338 2
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Why is it that atheist fight so very hard to prove the unprovable? If you don't believe then that's your right here in this land. If a Christian approaches you, tell them you are not interested and go about your way. You try as hard to convince others there is no God yet you guys gripe about it when a Christian tries to help you save your immortal soul. Could it be the pagans stole the holidays from the Christians? If your talking about Christmas and such, man did that. Jesus was actually born probably sometime in June or July but they decided to celebrate in December. That doesn't mean Christ was born on that day.
2006-06-24 00:00:07
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answered by Anonymous
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A lot of good answers here. Christians never apologize for anything they do, they say it was all in the name of God. All of the Christian holidays come from the Pagans, even Christmas. It's the winter Solstice. The Crusades. They wanted everyone to be Christians so they changed the holidays and tried to convert or be killed. However, some remained Pagan and played the good Christian to save their lives.
2006-06-14 23:02:20
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answered by Anonymous
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This is sorta directed at Pete S. because what he said was so ridiculous. Not in a 'it-can't-possibly-be-true' kind of way, but in an 'that-was-really-uneducated' kind of way. Now, I am agnostic, I'm not a practicing Christian at all, but I was raised Catholic, and went to Catholic school, so I know a lot of history. Catholicism is just a denomination of Christianity. Christians didn't steal things from Catholics. Christianity is a wide spread term for all religions that believe that Jesus Christ was the savior, Protestants believe some things and not others, the same goes for Catholics. There are lots of forms of Christianity, and before you say things about one, you should make sure you're know what you're talking about. And, yes some of the things that Christians do probably do derive from some pagan things, but they gave them other meanings. Okay, sorry to be a b****, I just had to clear that up because it drives me crazy when people say things they have no clue about. I've already answered this question on the other thread wolverine posted.
2006-06-26 05:05:39
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answered by Sibylline 2
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They used, then diluted Druids rituals to lull the people into accepting the Roman (Christian) faith. Since all Druid knowledge was by memory and passed down to the Bards, Healers and Priestesses, most was lost as Church turned converts and armies upon the Ancients and murdered almost all.
What little knowledge we have now has been passed through the centuries.
They converted some first and then set them upon those who did not convert. A trick politicians are using with stunning success right today in the USA. . Divide and conquer..to the masters go the spoils.
2006-06-26 19:07:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Though most theologeans feel that Christ was born in the summer, Christmas was move to December 25 to occupy winter solestice celebrations. Easter is more obvious. They didn't even change the name. The festival of Oester celebrated the beginning of Spring. All Saints Day = Halloween. (also, note the latest fad by Christians to have their kids dress up as biblical "stars" and go to church instead of trick or treat.)
Christians (like any political group) are smart. It's easier to divert a river than stop the flow. It's easier to divert local tradition into a religious celebration than to ban the celebration.
Why should they appologize? Revised history has been done by religions, politicians, and liberals for years.
2006-06-25 12:30:35
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answered by freebird 6
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Just to clear something up, it wasn't the Pagan/Wiccan holidays. It was just the Pagan holidays.
There was no Wicca back then.
The Wiccan religion came about in the 1950's.
I'm not bashing so don't start with me. I'm an ordained Priestess, stuided the Wiccan religion for a little over 8 straight years. Just wanted to point out that it was the Pagan holidays seeing as Wicca wasn't around back then.
~Gypsy~
2006-06-15 12:56:41
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answered by Gypsy 2
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Its nothing new. Lots of new religions take from faiths and practices of the past. To show your religion had power you would level an existins temple or shrine and build your own atop. Same with holidays and practices. Its all to do with power in the end. Paganism though lives on in our practices today and nor everone knows about it. I'm a Wiccan and my kids go to the local Roman Catholic school. We live in the countryside and every summer the local stalwart of the church teaches our kids the Maypole. They perform it at the school's summer fayre. Does this little old lady realise that it's the pagan tradition of binding the erect penis of the sun god? Makes me giggle every time.
2006-06-15 07:20:14
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answered by samanthajanecaroline 6
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They did it to trick Pagans into celebrating Christian festivals and to undermine the Pagan faith. This would ultimately help to convert them. They also likened Pagan beliefs to devil worship to vilify it.
Christianity was all about spreading the message of God and they believed what they were doing was right. Nowadays they are more open-minded about other cultures but back then they just wanted to enlighten everyone so they could go to heaven.
2006-06-14 14:33:20
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answered by bOb 4
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