If gay people are so concerned with getting married in a spiritual context...?

Question

Then why don't they make their own religion?? Wouldn't that make everybody happy? Why do they have to have it all???

Answer 1

They have the spiritual side. There are many religious organizations that welcome homosexual couples with open arms, but their marriage ceremonies lack all sense of legality because in the eyes of the government they are not standalone, sanctioned unions. Basically, gay people are trying to say they have the God-given right to march into their local church of any and every denomination and follow through with a complete and legally recognized marriage ceremony, whether anyone else agrees with it or not.

I can see, if gay marriage becomes legal across the US, churches being sued by gay and lesbian groups for denying couples the privilege to marry in their churches. After all, personal convictions must only count if they are willing to accept gay marriage.

It's like those Boob Nazis. Ever since it became illegal to ban them from breastfeeding anywhere they happen to want to whip out a breast, regardless of if it's appropriate or not, they are all about suing any and every private business that asks them to cover it back up.

Americans are such entitlement-minded little people.

Answer 2

Timmy... Poor, poor misguided Timmy! So full of wrath and fire and brimstone. Why must you regurjitate such hateful things?! Close your mouth and learn to listen. Understand. Be still.

Gay people, while some ARE spiritual, don't necessarily want a spiritual bonding (as I call it), some do. For those who have been in relationships longer than you've been alive, who have been sharing their lives for decades, we want the same LEGAL rights as those afforded to heterosexual couples.

This does nothing to demean or displace what you would dubb the "sanctity" of marriage. Many heterosexuals have pretty much done all the damage they could do to the "sanctity of marriage" and ruined that definition on their own. They certainly didn't need our help!

Go ahead, try to deny it. How many divorces have there been this year alone? How many adulterous relationships? How many men living "straight" lives go out at night and suck dick in a local park and/or contract HIV or any other STD? How many children's lives have been impacted by the lies these people tell themselves and each other. "I will love you forever!" Yeah right.

For every married couple that makes it to their respective dying days, there are thousands of marriages voided within their first years. Where is the sanctity in that? Where is the pride? Where is the hope? Where is the spirit? Sanctity indeed!

If anything, giving homosexuals the right to marry (or be legally bonded) may just save the face of marriage itself, or at least raise it up from the pit that it has become. I know more couples that have been together 10 years or more than I do heterosexuals!

It's very easy for someone like you to look down upon those you do not understand, to thumb your nose at mankind's most-treasured emotion, 'love'. Yet you do nothing to lift yourself up, to give yourself hope, or give hope to those around you. You merely stake your claim as a child in a sandbox would, only to abandon the sandbox for seemingly greener pastures.

Another thing: "Marriage" and "wedding" are two totally different animals. "Marriage" has legal ramifications. "Wedding" is the prized, spiritual thing you are speaking of. Learn the difference between the two. Get it straight!

P.S. We don't have to have it all, just the world on a silver platter is all we're asking! ;-)


Peace be with you.

Answer 3

Because, you shouldn't have to create something totally different to be accepted. Plus, it isn't just a spiritual context. Most gay men and women aren't worried about a spiritual marriage, they already know that if they love eachother they are spiritually connected beyond what any person can say. We are worried about political/financial problems, we are worried about equality. We cannot be benneficiaries of Social Security, because that goes to the legal spouse and child. If we have a same-sex lover then that person is neither of those two. While I'm sure that some are concerned about marriage being spiritually accepted, we are more worried about getting the same rights that heterosexual couples have (i.e. Power of Attorney, etc.). It is more of an acceptance into modern culture. We want to be viewed as equals, but until same-sex marriage is legalized everywhere we will not be viewed as equals by the rest of the population.

Answer 4

Nobody has to make a new religion for gay people to get married.

There are Christian denominations that perform gay weddings in EVERY state of the United States.

There are Non-Christian religions that perform gay weddings.

The concern isn't with "getting" married... we have been able to do that for quite some time.

The concern is that when we do, the government treats it the same as a straight wedding.

This is the fundamental error you and those like you continue to make. The government is seeking to BAN gay marriage, it's just trying to legislate discrimination against gay people by FORCING the states to treat them differently and/or completely disregard them.

Answer 5

Gay people are not concerned with getting married in a spiritual context. They already can and already do. There are many gay congregations and pastors performing gay ceremonies across the country.

Gay people are actually concerned with governmental recognition and access to the over 1500 rights and privileges currently available only to heterosexual married couples, such as taxation, medical decision making, inheritance, spousal social security benefits, and the nationalization of foreign born spouses.

The recognition of gay marriage will not alter religion one bit. The Constitution forbids it. Gay marriage has been legal in Massachusetts for over a year and not one church, temple, or synagogue has been forced to change its tenets as a result.

Answer 6

Actually the Metropolitian Community Church is a predominately homosexual church and does preform marriages but that doesn't give the couple legal standing. Why shouldn't they "have it all"? There are many other churches that hold no prejudice for being homosexual also so "making their own religion" would be a bit pointless wouldn't it. Gay marriage is a legal problem not a religious one, recoginized legal standing is the issue.

Answer 7

What exactly do you mean "Have it All"?????
Who are we to judge another human on this planet about who they LOVE? If we as heterosexuals, are so concerned with the sanctity of marriage, then why is the divorce rate so high? Why are heterosexual couples not PERSECUTED for committing ADULTERY? All of these are not acceptable "in the Bible"...

How can the government even make a ruling based on a RELIGIOUS IDEAL?
Why do people feel the need to impose their ways on other people? Or that they know what is best for everyone? how about we just all mind our own business...WOULDN'T THAT MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY?

Answer 8

Ok, first off you can be a Gay Christian. Homosexuality is a sin. So is possessing worldly goods like that SUV you dump money into while there are people starving in the world. Isn't that a bit Covetous?

To be human is to Sin. It is impossible to be without sin, only god is without sin. Homosexuality is just a scapegoat for christians who should look inward rather then spitting there hateful nonsense. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Answer 9

no1 is asking for everything.....some gay people wanna get married and others donts , its the same with str8 people, and theres nothing religious in getting married these days everything has been desecrated not only by gay people but by str8 people as well....and for the first person that answered this question i wanna tell her/him that shes/hes a hypocrite , if she/he really cares so much about religion she/he should revise her/his attitude towards people (gay or str8), how can you preach religion when your judging people and hating them for being gay(or whatever) .....now honey , thats not what a good christian would do ....or should do anyway, you're just another fake profet .....instigating hate towards human-kind, thats not the way thought by The Bible.

Answer 10

why do you have to have it all? and we arent asking for it all, all we want is the same rights as everybody else, because we are human beings and have feelings too,and probably know how to love a better than you!Why does everybody have to be seperated! being gay isnt a religion, some of us do believe in god ya know? we arent some weird cult!