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okay. think about it on our money it says in god we trust.
in the pledge we say one nation under god.
i dont get it.
i know some people do not believe in him and i understand but why deny that our founding fathers did?

2006-06-13 16:30:17 · 8 answers · asked by killer kid* 1 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

8 answers

Because they do not read history.
Another reason is that if they believe there is no God, then they feel they do not have to pay the wages of their sins, which is death. (Death of the SOUL!)

OH, and the seperation of church and state does NOT exist. The Government can not tell you what church to belong to was the meaning fo that clause. Church of England forced everyone to follow thier preachings.

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776.
THE UNANIMOUS
DECLARATION
OF THE
THIRTEEN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands, which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

HE has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.

HE has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

HE has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodations of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyranny only.

HE has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.

HE has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.

HE has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining, in the mean Time, exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.

HE has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

HE has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

HE has made Judges dependent on his Will alone; for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.

HE has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.

HE has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the Consent of our Legislatures.

HE has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

HE has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

FOR quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:

FOR protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

FOR cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:

FOR imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

FOR depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:

FOR transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:

FOR abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:

FOR taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

FOR suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.

HE has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection, and waging War against us.

HE has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

HE is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with Circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.

HE has constrained our Fellow-Citizens, taken Captive on the high Seas, to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

HE has excited domestic Insurrection amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes, and Conditions.

IN every Stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every Act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.

NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them, from Time to Time, of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our Connexions and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the Rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

WE, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in GENERAL CONGRESS Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connexion between them and the State of Great-Britain, is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of Right do. And for the Support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of DIVINE PROVIDENCE, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honour.

John Hancock.

2006-06-13 16:36:59 · answer #1 · answered by lancelot682005 5 · 1 2

US currency had "In God We Trust" added in 1956, just after "under God" was inserted into the Pledge of Allegiance. Both were done in opposition to the "Godless Communists". That's 50 years ago, not 230.

Many of the founding fathers were religious. And they went out of their way to draft a Constitution that made sure this was a secular (non-religious) country.

People are free to believe whatever they want about religion and spiritual matters. That's also guaranteed in the Constitution. But that belief is not valid grounds for enacting laws, for the same reason. The Founders came from countries where the government dictated religion, and those who didn't follow the True Faith were enemies of the state (crown).

They didn't want that for their country, or ours.

2006-06-13 16:54:17 · answer #2 · answered by coragryph 7 · 0 0

Because it isn't.

The United States of American was founded on on the belief that all men were created equal: that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.

Our Founding Fathers make sure that Citizens of the United States would not be subjected to any law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibited the free exercise thereof in the first Amendment of the Constitution.

They had just broken away from the tyranny of the British Monarchy and the forced religion that came with it.

Maybe you should read some U.S. history and learn about the birth of this nation.

2006-06-13 16:47:25 · answer #3 · answered by Laurie K 1 · 0 0

I don't think anyone disputes that our founding fathers and those that first came to this country had a foundation in religion and god.

They did, however, write that there should be a seperation of church and state and the fact that IN GOD WE TRUST and ONE NATION UNDER GOD should not be on our currency or in the Pledge.

I, however, don't care as they are just words.

2006-06-13 16:36:42 · answer #4 · answered by umwut? 6 · 0 0

I don't think most people dispute God's existence -- the problem comes with chosing which God gets to make the rules. Fundamental Christians think their God is the only one we should all believe in and obey. Catholics have a whole different viewpoint. Hindus and Zorastrians are never even taken into account in this country. So, which God calls the shots? I prefer to think that our founding fathers' creed that "All men are created equal" gives us the right to worship as we choose in America. Or, if we prefer, to NOT worship. Besides, do you truly want to be a Puritan? I think not.

2006-06-13 16:37:29 · answer #5 · answered by CarolO 7 · 0 0

1st off there were no founding fathers, how to you claim to have "found" somthing that was already inhabited? It was robbed from the people that were orginally living here before any thought of "founding fathers" came here.
So anyone who doesn't have a belief in God is justified in their belief (I believe in God), but the original FOUNDERS of the United States, which are NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS, did not believe in God, they had their own religious practices and beliefs, yet they were FORCED by theses "FOUNDING FATHERS" that you speak of, to practice CHRISTIANITY.... So answer your question, it wasn't founded on God because forcing someone to do something is foundation...

2006-06-13 16:40:40 · answer #6 · answered by kiddyn0mite 1 · 0 0

Some links for you:
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state#United_States_of_America

http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.htm
http://www.homeofheroes.com/hallofheroes/1st_floor/flag/1bfc_pledge.html

http://www.treasury.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_mott.htm
http://home.flash.net/~lbartley/au/issues/godtrust.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
http://usaattacked.com/InGodWeTrust.htm

You can be almost absolutely sure that the treasury.gov site has it's history correct.

It is true perhaps that many (most?) of the founding fathers were individually religious. It is also seemingly true that they greatly feared intervention of faith with government because it would (and has) necessarily lead to a disenfrachisement of another set of people by that ``state endorsed´´ faith.

2006-06-13 16:41:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well GOD made everything, so how this country is excluded. Even who ever thinks it isn't the case, then who created them?

2006-06-14 02:17:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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