Why are feminists against China's abortion practices?e?

Question

Feminists are often insulted by China's deliberate aborting of female children before birth. Aparently, they do so to control population. Their logic is "100 men cannot simultaneously impregnate 1 woman, but 1 man can simultaneously impregnate 100 women".

However, these same feminists who are insulted by this are often pro-choice. Arguing, that fetuses are not living humans. Based on this ideology , China isn't killing girls, China is aborting "nothings". Again, based on this ideology, China isn't insulting or underminding females, it is underminding "nothings". Yet again, based on this ideology, China isn't violating a woman's body. It is simple purifying the woman from certain "nothings". Why be insulted, then?

Also, is the US more moral for equaly killing both sexes? Is this half as bad, or twice as bad?

For your information, I am disgusted by this barbaric practice. However, I am against abortion in any situation. Therefore, my disgust is logical and consistant.

Than you.

After fetuses are percieved as "lifeless cells", then the removing of one is no more a violation of the woman than a flu shot. It becomes a simple, standard procedure.

If abortion isn't immoral, then the reason for abortion shouldn't be a concern. If abortion isn't imoral, in any way, then abortion a fetus because it's "could become" a girl is no more imoral then aborting a fetus because of expences.

If abortion isn't immoral, then the reason for abortion shouldn't be a concern. If abortion isn't imoral, in any way, then aborting a fetus because it "could become" a girl is no more imoral then aborting a fetus because of expences.

The Chinese logic is based on the truth that a woman can only be impregnated once at a time. No matter how many times she has sex durring that pregnancy. So, if they limit the number of women, they limit procriation.

However, a man can impregnate a second woman only shortly after a first. Therefore, attempting to control the population by limiting men is pointless, because just one man, (theoreticaly) can impregnate 100 women.

The only alternative would be to completely eliminate men, but this would destine a nation to destruction. For obvious reasons.

Allilu, you have misjudged me. I do have an open mind about many things. At the same time, I can be stuborn. If one is to convince me, it must be with knowledge and/or logic.

I do not tell others they are right just to please them. As no one should tell me.

For instance, if one could show me how aborting a child by the mother's choice is more moral or just than aborting a child by a government's choice, I would respect their answer.

To rephrase, if one chould show meh how aborting a child by a government's choice is less moral or just than abortion a child by its own mother's choice, I would repsect their answer.

Hmmmm, respectful answer, Allilu. As I said, I am open minded, I just don't usually write notes like this. I just honour certain answers.

However, if I may reason with you, (as you have me). If morality should not be imposed by a government, then who is to rebuke China for their wrong mistreatment of women? Are they not a people of another culter, belief, faith, upbringing and society? By what science is a woman demanded love? By what tangeble proof is a woman required care? By what non-moral-based truth does a woman deserve any rights? Is it not by the intangible respect and love of the heart and mind that I, (and any decent man) loves women? Is it not by the morals bestowed in me that I respect my mother, sisters, and all women? Is it not by the compasion of society, and rights, we only hold true in our hearts, that we enforce the care of all, despite their sex?

Allilu, you mentioned being open minded. I have always read what you and those who oppose my views say. In fact, I read them more eagerly. For that matter, I wish I could question you, personaly, on you views, ( as well as you question me).

Please, in all sincerity, respond via email to me. Thank you for your time and answers, Ma'am. I appreciate them all.

Answer 1

Abortion or adoption, whatever, that's not the point. The point is the fact that women are viewed as second-class and not wanted in the first place.
I'm not sure I follow your logic in the first paragraph. If they're trying to control population, how is 1 man impregnating 100 women a good thing?

Ok, man id unknown, I have to confess that sometimes I look forward to your questions, even if we differ in opinions and beliefs. I find it refreshing to stretch my mind, hear things from others points of views, and look at things in different perspectives that normally I am not exposed to. After noticing you bashing the answers before me, I decided to look at the answers that you have chosen the best. Every single one of them are people that agree with you 100%, not the person that put forth thought, creativity, and intelligence. If you were putting forth thoughtful questions to promote engaging discussions, great. But all you are doing is looking for people that agree with you that are going to pat you on your back for your thoughts. This is supposed to be a forum to learn about other people and the world, and to expand your horizons. But you're just using it to stay in your own tiny little bubble.

Ok, then lets look at it like this. The U.S. does not legislate morality. Legislation is designed to maintain order and prevent chaos and anarchy. Murder is illegal not because it is immoral, but because if we went arounding murdering people that upset us, society would fall apart. Any justification that I've ever heard from pro-lifers is that "abortion is wrong, immoral, against God's will" and so on and so on. But not every person in the country has the same moral beliefs or religous beliefs. So the question should not be "is it right or wrong" but does society feel a detrimental effect from abortion being legal or illegal? Either way, society is not going to fall apart, which is why the Supreme Court has pretty much left it up to the states to draw the line at what is legal or illegal when it comes to abortions. No pro-choicer thinks that abortion is a wonderful thing, or that everyone should have sex and say "oh, we don't need a condom, if I get pregnant I'll just get an abortion." Pro-choicers (if I may be so bold as to speak for a whole group) think that there are different people of different faiths, morals, and backgrounds, that should be allowed to make their own decisions about their bodies. If someone gives me one reason besides "it's wrong, its immoral, it's against God's will" I will gladly look at their point of view, but otherwise, it is legislating morality.
So on the China issue, it's that the fact like I said at the top that women are viewed as second-class and not wanted in the first place. So women are pressured to get an abortion, either by family members that will abandon them if they don't, or through societal pressures to terminate a pregnancy that they really have no say over. It's not that the fetuses are "nothings" or "somethings". It's that the women should not be put in that situation in the first place.

Answer 2

Feminists are against the abortion laws in China because it robs the women of their biological rights. Feminist is basically a term to describe people that fight for the rights of women. What if the chinese government went about another way in modern birth control and decided that men should be the one's to make the sacrifice after the first child? You all would be pissed too.

Answer 3

Can you name some people who think it's OK to use abortion to select the gender of your child? What feminists think this is a good or even acceptable idea?

The issue in the abortion debate is when does human life begin.


I've heard that in China and other Asian countries, the anti female bias is carried even further. There is killing of female babies, who have already been born. It's reported that in some places, there is an astonishing imbalance of the sex ratio in the young population. It's hard to believe. people kill their own children?

Answer 4

To answer your question in the most precise fashion available to mankind and is the easiest answer that holds the most truth...They lack knowledge in GOD...If they really knew what they were doing, most of them would prob. pass out right there on the spot. I believe that under no circumstance should an unborn life ever be taken. EVER!! That unborn child deserves a passage into this life, no matter what the cost. There is always adoption.

Answer 5

A "feminists" favourite weapon is the smoke - monitor objection. In this situation, the "it motives populace disparity". A "feminist" does not realize any longer approximately populace dynamics / basics than a monkey is aware of approximately astrophysics, that objection sounds bigger than the reality even though. "a girl has a proper to select", so long as her option is in keeping with a person - hating - lesbian - communist schedule. They've been screeching for greater than a new release that there are NO negatives related to "abortion", no extended danger of beast melanoma, no huge danger related to the precise method, no extended danger of melancholy / suicide and essential no terrible final result on society.......till now Now, we are intended to pay attention once they say, "good an abortion for THIS rationale is flawed with capabilities negatives", so, are we ultimately getting an admission that "abortions" aren't one hundred% confident and do deliver terrible facet results? I suppose no longer, permit me wager, it is not the precise "abortion" that's the quandary, proper? It's the "sexism in the back of it"? Gee, this is an proposal, why no longer stress the ones governments to pay females to preserve ladies and tax them to have boys? That will deal with the possibly disastrous results of "populace disparity" that's of path what "feminists" are particularly worried approximately in this hassle, proper?

Answer 6

I think you're missing the point here. Pro-choice means "freedom of choice." In China, they force these women into involuntary abortions. They woman doesn't decide - the government does for them.

Answer 7

Abortion is murder - whether it's here, China wherever