Why are pro choice advocates the first to call soldiers baby killers?

Question

Seriously, I was called a baby killer (by my pro choice sister)because I was deployed in Iraq for 15 months (I never killed any babies). Concurrently she is a hard core pro choice advocate...EVERY RATIONAL PERSON recognizes a dead fetus as murder.

Answer 1

Please don't make inane statements that "every rational person recognizes a dead fetus as murder".

So a baby that dies in utero from spina bifida is murder? No.

And abortion is not murder. According to the law of the land, see Roe vs. Wade, it's allowed up till the end of the first trimester and therefore is also not murder.

Don't impose your views on others. Your rights STOP where my nose STARTS.

Enjoy the caps.

Answer 2

Good question. The fact of the matter is, life begins at conception. And no, I don't mean to state the same conservative dogmatic rhetoric. But if you look at the fetus after conception, cells begin to divide within hours. If that is not life, then what is it?
Many biologists will agree with that.

So, taking that life, even if it is not viable outside the womb, is what it is- call it murder if you will. (the current "test" courts use to determine if a fetus is alive- the idea being that if it survives outside the womb it is alive. Hogwash. Seriously, lawyers should take more biology classes).

Also, to the person who stated the following:

"the law of the land, see Roe vs. Wade"

You pulled a "John Kerry" there. Roe v. Wade is not the "law of the land". It is a decision that was handed down by the Supreme Court. Even though the US Supreme Court uses case law and the principle of stare decisis ("let the decision stand") to determine how it argues a case, the Court has frequently reversed itself, especially on a highly politicized issue. The 1896 Plessy v Ferguson segregation decision, for example, would have been the "law of the land" had the Court not reversed itself in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education in 1954.

Abortion is construed as a "right" under the penumbra of the Bill of Rights and the privacy cases such as Griswold (which preceded it). But, I stress again, Courts can and do reverse themselves and it is inappropriate to state that Roe v Wade is "the law of the land".

I think taking any life- whether it is 1 month post-conception, or 18 years old and fighting in Iraq, is wrong. Now, do I feel that there is a difference between the two? Yes. But it does not excuse taking an unborn life.

Answer 3

Your sister was wrong to call you a baby killer. However, have no illusions. Our military as a whole has killed LOTS of babies, children, and women in the past few years.

The simple fact is, abortion prevents a life. Just like a condom or the pill. If you have sex using birth control, are you "murdering" a fetus by preventing its conception? I think not.

And if you believe that "life" begins at conception, then I respect your belief, but certainly do not share it. You must also consider, though, that if abortion is made illegal again, teenagers will use coat-hangers and pills rather than a trained physician. That will result in brain-damaged babies, young dead mothers, and various other "cons". Remember also that the suicide rate among teens dropped significantly after Roe v. Wade.

Answer 4

there is a difference between the all ready born and something that is not even born. one is birth control the other is murder.and the only reason church tell one otherwise is because there are more people to tithe if birth control is not used. and there is no rational person that can say that something that never was can be murdered ,but i don't believe most soldiers would try to kill a baby either,bombs its hard to tell whats going to get hit,so on. but i do see a difference between killing some one and using birth control and see no other rational way of looking at it.

Answer 5

I'm pro choice and pro soldier never called or even thought to call a soldier a baby killer. the men and women of the military are our protectors and with out them how would we even have a choice or the right to speak our mind such as calling a soldier a baby killer?

Answer 6

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Answer 7

Sounds twisted to me too. Its sad that so many people only give the baby rights after its come out. If you kill a pregnant woman and her baby, its 2 murders. And yet that pregnant woman can abort and its considered ok. Seriously mixed message, huh?

Answer 8

Because, as long as they aren't remotely effected by something, like war they will protest it.

If there was a baby over there that you didn't kill, they wouldn't care, but if the baby grew up, came over to America and attacked something/someone that was important to them then they would care.

Im pro life

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Answer 9

I have no idea, is this one of thoose pro/anti war questions.

Ok, heres one why is it that soldiers of any country will believe that there commanders are doing the right thing with out questioning it?

Answer 10

Well, abortion is a woman's right - before she is too pregnant it's her own body we're talking about. But when troops bomb a village and innocent children get killed that's a whole different ballgame.