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If you accept Jesus as the Messiah who came to pay for your sins then why you don't follow His teachings?

If you don't accept Him as so then why is it in the Koran?

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2007-12-08 04:04:27 · 13 answers · asked by David Drakov 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Mrr86 that was David Duchovsky if I recall well.

2007-12-12 03:34:58 · update #1

Ok I was wondering if Muslims believe in the rest of the Old Testament besides the Torah cause the prophets promised that Jesus will come to be the "choosen lamb" of the sacrifice, the one who would pay for our sins.

2007-12-12 03:39:20 · update #2

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Hey, I think it is great what you are doing on Yahoo Answers. It is about time people learned what the Koran really says. People can't deny it then when you take the words straight from it!

The Koran is full of contradictions!

2007-12-08 07:54:03 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

On 1 October 2007 I asked this Q in Yahoo - Is it true that Muslims refuse to call Jesus 'Christ' and/or 'Messiah'? I received interesting and conflicting answers from Muslims.

One said 'We consider Jesus as Prophet of God and Messiah (Christ) to Jews.'
Another said 'In Islam Jesus is Isa Al Masih (Jesus the Christ). Muslims have been telling the Jews for hundreds of years that Jesus is the Messiah whom they were and are waiting for. Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah... [which] means the Anointed One.... Muslims have been telling the Jews to stop their rejection and accept Jesus Christ... as THEIR Messiah...'

This tells me that they think Jews should accept him as their Messiah, but for themselves they merely say the title means Anointed One, which can be said equally of many other prophets.

I checked Sura 4 but could not find any statement about Jesus being Messiah. I found this: 'Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah...' I do not think Muslims have any concept of sin and the need to have our sins atoned for in the way the Bible describes this.

I was also saddened to discover many Muslims have no idea what message Jesus proclaimed when on earth. The handful of odd verses in the Qur'an about Jesus say virtually nothing about the person of Christ or his teachings. Muslims are warned not to read the Bible because it's supposed to have been corrupted and the true gospel is lost. How convenient. People who have only a few fleeting sentences about a mystical baby/child who grew up with no accurate written record about him and who disappeared without trace just before the crucifixion cannot possibly follow his teachings, can they? They have no idea what he taught.

2007-12-08 14:21:16 · answer #2 · answered by Annsan_In_Him 7 · 1 1

He is the messiah, but he did not come to pay for our sins. That's against the concept of justice in Islam. Everybody pays for their own sins.

Simon: As a top contributor, you should know better. Read chapter 112 of the Quran. It's short and sweet, only 4 verses. It clearly states that God has no son. Don't try to come on here and say that Muslims believe Jesus to be the son of God.

2007-12-08 14:45:31 · answer #3 · answered by yo189 2 · 2 1

As a Muslim, I've no problem with the term 'Messiah', it just means anointed. Suggesting Jesus was anointed by the holy spirit/power of Almighty God.

Islam is basically a non-trinitarian branch of Christianity.

And yeh, you mean 172 not 169

2007-12-08 12:16:34 · answer #4 · answered by Henry R 2 · 2 3

For your information, the word "Messiah" does not mean God, son of God, or someone who pays for other people's sins. The Jews are waiting for a Messiah, but in their creed he is not supposed to be "son of God", nor he is supposed to pay for anyone's sins.

The word "Messiah" means "the anointed one", and as Muslims we don't have a problem with that!

The Islamic creed explains that each person is responsible for his/her own acts, and that to be forgiven we only need the Mercy of God. God is so Merciful that he doesn't need anybody to die for anybody's sins. He can forgive without the need for sacrificing a human.


see this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah

In Judaism, the Messiah (Hebrew: מָשִׁיחַ, Standard Mašíaḥ Tiberian Māšîªḥ; Aramaic: משיחא, Məšîḥā; Arabic: المسيح, al-Masīḥ; "the Anointed One") at first meant any person who was anointed with oil on rising to a certain position among the ancient Israelites, at first that of High priest, later that of King and also that of a prophet. In English today, it is used in three main contexts: in a Jewish context, it refers to the anticipated king of the Davidic line prophesied by Isaiah, who will rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age; in a general sense, it means any such saviour or liberator of the world; and among Christians, it refers to Jesus of Nazareth identified as the Christ (Greek: Χριστος, the Anointed One).

Peace/salaam.

2007-12-08 12:25:02 · answer #5 · answered by Abu Ahmad 5 · 1 4

Thanks for the question :)

Yes, Muslims do believe that Jesus was a prophet. We just don't believe that he is God.

We follow his teachings, after all he is a Holy Prophet.

2007-12-08 14:20:44 · answer #6 · answered by Bahar01 2 · 1 0

Just gave you a star.

I had studied Arabic and the Koran with some very good Arab friends of mine and had thought, in those days, that Islam was a misunderstood Religion since it seemed to be more a cult of Christianity than anything else.

Right now, after having seen the vast amount disagreement with those ideals, I think that either I have been taught wrong or the Muslims actually believe in something quite different.

The Surah Maryum clearly says that God[Allah] says that the predicted Son that she shall have is His seed/gift[depending on how you want to translate it] and that He had sent the Son to her with His Spirit[Ruh, in Arabic]. This, incidentally, was what my Muslim Teachers taught me, not my own interpretation.

Yet, here, I've heard all the Muslims say that this is not true and even been called a liar and accused to misquoting the Koran!?

Makes one wonder what is true, then, doesn't it?

Also, the role of Jesus' return has been said to be in a subservient role to Imam Mahdi, not as the Messiah; by almost all the Muslims here. My friends assured me that this was in the Shi'a version, not in the Sunni version that I read.

Now, most Muslims here even denied the existence of more than one version of the Koran, while it's evident that there many. Why else would the Saudis ban all other versions of the Koran except the Wahabi version, on pain of lashings, from the Holy Lands? How could they even make out your version is not the Wahabi version if all the versions of the Koran said the same things?

Yet, the Muslims here say there is only one version of the Koran!?

There are many places where the Koran contradicts itself, like the Mecca verses which are conciliatory and Christian-friendly, but then, the Medina verses and post Medina ones go diametrically opposite to those before.

As such, the Koran is quite confused, itself. This might be said to be my "Western" vision, but, I fail to understand how two conflicting things can co-exist.

What worries me is the fact that most Muslims here say, rather openly, that Jesus is not the Respected One, but a subservient of Mohammad and so on. They, obviously see us as their subservients which is the position described in the Koran as "dhimmi".

With these kinds of thoughts in their minds, they are a real threat to all of us who do not subscribe to their way of thinking and that is what is scary.

Maybe some Muslims follow the Koran that I'd studied, while the rest follow the dangerous versions. How do we know which one is which?

That's why I think that we should actively stop the growth of their numbers in our lands and ban their Mosques [which are a nuisance to all others with their screaming 5 times a day] and their Madrases [which have been proven many a time, already, to be terrorist training grounds] and generally block their attempts at immigration and send them out of here. That's the only way we can ensure our own safety.

Maybe some of the good ones will suffer by this action, but, we are incapable of telling the difference between them, you see.

Peace.

ST

PS,

Sheesh, now I see that some Muslims have even said that Jesus is a lesser Prophet than Mohammad!?

Just goes to show us how wrong we were in thinking they were something else, huh?

Mr. yo, I didn't say that Allah said that Jesus is His Son, that's not how it translates, but, if Jesus is Allah's gift to Maryum, then is He not equal to the Son?

Please enlighten me, all you brilliant Muslims, as to who sits on Allah's right, according to the Koran, in Jannah[Heaven]?

Is it Imam Mahdi?

Also, kindly tell me if the chapters on the Qiyamah are in the Koran, or in a hadith?

2007-12-08 12:07:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 7 5

Yes, I believed in Isa al Masih

2007-12-08 12:11:41 · answer #8 · answered by yusdz 6 · 2 1

>> If you accept Jesus as the Messiah who came to pay for your
>> sins then why you don't follow His teachings?

        You misunderstand what "Messiah" means. "Saviour" means to come and pay for your sins. Thus, your argument is faulty.

God bless.

2007-12-08 12:18:49 · answer #9 · answered by ♫DaveC♪♫ 7 · 3 5

True Islam teaches that it will actually be Jesus that returns in the end. Though he was only a prophet or lesser value than Mohammad.

2007-12-08 12:10:25 · answer #10 · answered by PaRDeS 2 · 0 7

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