Are Anti's actually Pro's?

Question

I keep seeing Anti's say "repeal this law" "make this law" isn't that Pro reform?If you want new laws or old laws repealed that's Pro Reform of old laws.What about this aren't you getting?Sounds like you just like being termed ANTI something.How do you like being Pro Reform? Feels good doesn't it?

Sorry don't know any Pro "illegals".Even on here.Most of the Pro's on here preach reform of laws you just don't listen.

Sorry that still sounds like us NoAmnesty4U.But you forgot the better border and ports security we preach too that allowed this to happen in the first place.

Answer 1

'Pro' and 'Anti' are just internet short hand. Call us the blue team and the red team, for all I care.

Our approaches and priorities are different, but I still hope for a common ground with those who also don't want what people are coming here for to begin with to be ruined for our own kids, and theirs. Shades of purple, maybe?

Answer 2

Nearly everybody in America is pro-immigration reform right now. The only people who like the current system are a small number of businessmen who exploit illegal immigrants and actually prefer to hire illegal immigrants even over legal immigrants and citizens. The question is really whether there should be easier channels for increased legal immigration or whether we should get rid of all the illegal immigrants and then try to find a way to deal with the loss of all that labor. So the real question is whether the social costs (both in government services and hard-to-define but real effects of changes in society) associated with allowing another million immigrants a year are bigger or smaller than the costs to business of going without those million immigrants a year.

Answer 3

I don't know if antis like to be called that but I know I don't like to be called a "pro-illegal" when I clearly am not. I don't feel that I need to defend myself..my views are public here and anyone can see my Q&As or just ask me what I think.

I don't agree that antis are really pros because I think that they are coming from a negative place not a positive. They are mostly Anti Illegals in what they say which is they want the illegals out of here. Not positive in let's look at what is really going on let's look at why there is illegal immigration and let's look for a solution.

And I find a limited response to my questions sugesting ways to make the situation better and even low interest in helping Legal immigrants coming into American society. Even things like conversational ESL classas at the library you know?

Edit and I often Don't see antis talk about illegals as People. More often just the opposite!

~Sigy, La Senorita de los Cielos
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Answer 4

I support reform to a degree, but not in any fashion to benefit illegal aliens.
I want reform in the form of HR 1940 to close the "anchor baby" citizenship.
I want the laws clarified so that no one with a criminal background can ever be allowed to immigrate here.
I want reform of quotas based on actual need. Make employers offer decent wages, and actively try to hire Americans, then base temporary worker quotas on the results.
I want reform in the manner of making penalties of employers of illegal aliens so severe it would be most cost-effective to hire Americans.
I want reform prohibiting any government agency from providing any benefit to an illegal alien and that harshly sanctions those who violate them.
But don't attempt to equate my stance with the ones who are actively supporting the illegal aliens.
Proudly, anti-illegal alien.

Answer 5

The correct terms are "Pro-Enforcement" and "Defeatist".

Currently, "Pro" refers to "Pro-Amnesty", not "Pro-Reform" while "Anti" seems to mean "Anti-Amnesty". In both cases, those of us whose lives and neighborhoods have been decimated must assume the terms mean "blanket amnesty" which, if and when it happens to you, will mean "invasion".




"Where there is no law but each man does what is right in his own eyes, there is the LEAST of real liberty."
Gen HM Roberts, "Roberts' Rules of Order" 1915

Answer 6

Making amendments to laws are in theory suppose to actually fix broken laws. But until they address all the loop holes that they also add into those amendments, I doubt anything will ever happen that will satisfy Americans who happen to be Pro America.

Answer 7

You can play all the word games you want; it all amounts to the same idea.