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If you live your life angry, then, you will be outraged by undocumented.

If you live your life in fear, you will be scared that "they" will take over and you or your descendants will be without.

If you live your life with love as your guide, you can feel empathy for others and possibly will relate to the undocumented on a sympathetic level.

If your brain rules, you think about it.

IF your heart rules, you "feel" it.

ETC.

What is it that guides your life? Are you so interested in being "right" so that you can win? How does your stance on undocumented people edify what your ethics are?

And, FYI: undocumented:
1. lacking documentation or authentication.
2. lacking proper immigration or working papers.

Immigrant:

1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
2. an organism found in a new habitat.

2007-08-28 16:44:05 · 14 answers · asked by Amanda h 5 in Politics & Government Immigration

Lori- Thank you. that is exactly what I wanted. People live by different moral "codes" and I just wanted to know, at risk of sounding too "squishy" or "girly"

2007-08-28 16:52:13 · update #1

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That would be an innate feeling of "FAIRNESS" and YES, I feel that my feelings about ILLEGAL immigration reflect those feelings.

I think we have to be fair to ALL the legal immigrants who want to come to our country and create as many LEGAL avenues for law abiding new citizens. I don't think it's FAIR to allow others to muscle into the country and take opportunity away from those who are more deserving...more willing to follow our laws and respect our system of life.

I don't think it's FAIR to allow ILLEGAL aliens to take opportunity away from LEGAL immigrants from all over the world. We currently have more ILLEGAL aliens entering this country each year than LEGAL immigrants. That's not fair!

il·le·gal [i-lee-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1.forbidden by law or statute.
2.contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc
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al·ien [eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).
2.a foreigner.
3.a person who has been estranged or excluded.
4.a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.
–adjective
5.residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.
6.belonging or relating to aliens: alien property.
7.unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech.
8.adverse; hostile; opposed
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2007-08-28 16:48:35 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 9 5

I use all of them. I'm angry that they came here undocumented and caused problems for all Hispanics with racism, discrimination, and stereotypes or maybe it was always there going back 50, 100, 500 years.

I fear that some are really taking advantage of the system and are real criminals, terrorist, or bums that will not contribute anything good for society their whole life.

I love that some are giving back to the system and improving it. And are angels and help investigators to catch criminals. They have such a big heart they'll share there food with a bum even though they are poor them selves.

If I think about it people want them deported no negotiations leave or were coming to get you by any means necessary and at the same time prevent you from coming back in by any means necessary. no matter what the cost, even if we mistake, hurt, or anger some citizens or legal immigrants for getting the illegals it part of the mission deal with it.

So if they all left their jobs, broke up their family, took their children out of school and draged them around or left them with family then filled out the paper work and waited it out in Mexico for how ever many years in a country where their might not be any job, family, home, etc. and got the right paper work they could finaly come back. does the punishment fit the crime? is it justifed?

If 12 million people drive before they get a license should we take their parents car, tell them to quit thier job, take everything they own, tell them to seperate their families by leaving the state or keeping the family together in a different state and wait a few years or even worse if we caught them driving without a license would we do this or say now you are denied and banned from ever having a license or living in this state and if we catch here we will deport you back to your state. we do this to set an example because a crime is a crime and if you are breaking the law your a criminal. and your all hispanic so you can only live in california now because only california has hispanics and most people their are criminals.

2007-08-28 18:54:45 · answer #2 · answered by bayarealatino925 2 · 0 3

I strongly feel that not all people should be allowed to come to America to take away from it, but that being said i strongly feel that the Immigration process is operating at a kindergarten level and not helping those who really need them that being the family's of citizens, over running America with cheap labor will not force Americans to get better educations to improve their lives and or this country because most of them are to lazy to even start, governments who only think of whats best for people on their level of arrogance can never understand the people they serve and with good reason, they have never lived the life of the none privileged America they work for, it would be like some one working as a doctor after reading a book of a doctors life, really stupid and you wonder why our country is have problems, i say its due to overly educated people that have no logical thinking skills and have no idea of the world outside their glass house. ANYONE who thinks the immigration laws we have are fair have just never had the pleasure of the crazyness that awaits anyone trying to come here legal, how many of you could get married then leave your spouse in another country for around 3 to 7 years while waiting for your visa?

2007-08-28 18:09:25 · answer #3 · answered by JALISCO 2 · 2 1

I live my life by what is morally right, fair and abide the law.

Illegal immigrants have broken the law once; how many of them will break the law again?

If the President grants amnesty to illegals then certainly people applying for visa and petitions legally should be granted wishes to remain in the U.S. Where does that leave us standing?

I have a strong opinion on this topic because I am a U.S. citizen who married someone on a J1 visa that entered legally. Because he had a 2 year home rule restriction we were not allowed to remain together in the U.S. even after appealing our case for two years. Although the government acknowledged that we were legally married they still denied us. I had to choose between my family, career, and home or my husband. I chose to be with him and left everything behind.
If I must leave the U.S to be with my husband then it seems only right that illegal immigrants should not be allowed to stay.

2007-08-28 23:27:32 · answer #4 · answered by hiya 3 · 3 0

The feeling about the issue of ILLEGAL ALIENS that rules most people's lives is that we want our laws to be enforced. Our ethics are that right is right and wrong is wrong. Legal is legal and illegal is illegal.

Every country in the world has immigration laws.

Every country enforces them.

Period.

FYI, they are not undocumented and they are not immigrants.

They are ILLEGAL ALIENS.


You have 2 legal categories of "aliens": Resident and non-resident Alien.


Definition of Resident Alien
Resident aliens generally are taxed on their worldwide income, similar to U.S. citizens.

To be classified as a resident alien, the individual must meet one of two tests:

1. Green Card Test

A non-resident alien is a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. at any time if they have been given the privilege, according to the immigration laws, of residing permanently as an immigrant. This status usually exists if the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services has issued a green card.

2. Substantial Presence Test

A non-resident alien is classified as a resident alien for tax purposes if they were physically present in the U.S. for 31 days during the current year and 183 days during a three-year period that includes the current year and the two years immediately before that.



Definition of Non-resident Alien
If a person does not meet either the Green Card or Substantial Presence Test, then that person is classified as a non-resident alien.

A new arrival on a J-1 or F-1 visa is generally a non-resident alien.
Non-resident aliens are taxed only on their income from sources within the U.S. and on certain income connected with the conduct of a trade or business in the U.S.


And then you have An ILLEGAL ALIEN, which is neither of these.

An illegal alien is in a category all by himself or herself. He or she is not a resident or non-resident alien, not a citizen, naturalized citizen, and not any type of legal immigrant.

People like to use the term "undocumented" as if the only thing an illegal alien is lacking is paperwork, once they get it, everything will be "hunky dory". But the only way this will happen is for them to LEAVE the country, return to their country of origin and apply the legal way, obviously getting in line behind those already in the process. They are in no way shape or form "undocumented immigrants". They are not in the process AT ALL.

People like to call illegal aliens "immigrants" so as to try to make them seem "legal or kosher" and group them with those that follow the law coming here, or residing here. It's a slap in the face and an insult to group them together with law-abiding immigrants. People also attempt to confuse the issue (intentionally) by using the term "immigrants" when they really mean those that are here illegally. It is merely an attempt to blur the issue between REAL immigrants that followed the law to come here and those that did not...the ILLEGAL type.

2007-08-29 04:20:09 · answer #5 · answered by ProUSA2 6 · 1 2

I don't know if anything like what you say rules my life Ms. Amanda but I'm a souless heathen so.. *shrugs+smiles*

I don't think that your brain or heart has to be either one or the other. You know of course that it is easy to care about people and also be outraged by injustise so anger and empathy clearly can sometimes be related. I think maybe that you can have ethics and not have any feelings about an issue or a person.

I think that my views on immigration are related to my sense of what "fits" if that makes sense?

I think that immigration is probably a good thing in general because the people immigrating are going where they think they can have a better life, even if that is to move to another country to marry someone they love. It will probably also benefit for the country they are going to where they will use their efforts and skills and bring their ways of thinking.

Re illegal immigration..again I know that it is not right but I don't hate illegals for it. They are doing what they have to. It isn't like they Want to be illegal. I would rather the conditions that cause illegal immigration be changed than attack illegals.

And there are Much worse people than illegal immigrants. Some people in the world are so evil that I could kill them and feel totally right. Just Being an illegal won't put you anywhere Near that for me.

That's what I mean by "fit". I don't know if I'm explaining this very good.

2007-08-28 17:27:31 · answer #6 · answered by ♥ ~Sigy the Arctic Kitty~♥ 7 · 3 4

It's been a big change in the last 5 yrs here in Florida, you live in Constance awareness of your surrounding, self protection gives you a feeling of safety an protection, it's a shame we have had to change our live. As when i grew up i went to the park alone at 8yrs know you can't go alone at any age with out protection>>?Lets say being right is to win>??

2007-08-28 17:02:34 · answer #7 · answered by 45 auto 7 · 2 2

If you live your life illegally you will spend it watching over your shoulder worried the INS man is coming.
If you try to raise children in a country you do not have the right to live in, you will have to worry that you may be deported and have to abandon them.
If you pretend that illegals are something else by using words like undocumented you just show your ignorance.

2007-08-28 17:11:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 4

I love progress... I am not a "progressive" politically speaking, but a moderate.

We need more progress, more advancing of civilization, and the abandoning of fear.

2007-08-29 02:06:08 · answer #9 · answered by The Stylish One 7 · 2 0

I do feel sorry for many of them. The bottom line is that they have come here illegally. They have broken our laws and continue to disrespect our laws. These people are smart, they need to rise up against their government and change their country.

Good question! :)

2007-08-28 17:07:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

I consider myself a realistic person. I don't agree with any of your logic. Only certain things in life will make you angry. That doesn't mean you live an angry life. For instance... If someone came up to you and slapped you across the face, wouldn't that make you angry? I'm sure it would. That doesn't mean you live an angry life. I am afraid of something happening to my son who is serving in the armed forces in Iraq. That doesn't mean I live a life of fear. Furthermore... Even if a person lives a life of love... That doesn't mean they have to accept criminals breaking our laws. I believe you must live a life using your brain & your heart. Not just one or the other. You should be asking these same questions to illegal aliens & their supporters who expect American citizens to take care of them before taking care of their own.
Again... I totally disagree with your logic.

2007-08-28 17:04:47 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 5 4

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