How can I help liberals believe the truth about 9/11?

Question

It's so sad to see so many liberals cook up ideas that "Bush planned it" or "it never happened", etc, etc. These same people who can't believe that terrorists who hate America, hijacked planes and caused the damage have without any problem at all accepted that Steve Irwin was killed by a spearfish. They have seen no video. How do they know he wasn't shot? How do they know the film wasn't doctored? Anyways, it is just beyond me how liberals can be so blatently ignorant to the facts.

Answer 1

Just tell them that if Bush planned 9/11, then Clinton planned the 1993 WTC bombings and the 2000 USS Cole bombing. If they say those were real but the 9/11 attack was planned, you expose their hypocrisy. Sadly, that is all you can do because they will never accept the truth. But the good news is that once you expose their hypocrisy, they suddenly shut up and walk away.

Answer 2

I honestly wish that I had an answer for you. The best that I can say is that some people, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, will simply believe the most outlandish conspiracy theories because they see them as supporting their own political adgenda. If you try to point out where they might be misinformed, as an example when they claim that there was no airplane wreckage at the Pentagon crash site, (there was) they will claim that you are either a part of the conspiracy or a dupe for the "man". Others just embrace any new goofy story to come down the pike with the abandon of a child at play for the fun of it and to not be forced to think for themselves. I once spoke to a fellow, a college graduate from an ivy league school no less, who said that the lack of evidence was evidence in itsefl since it showed that someone had obviously removed all the evidence that would support his theory. At that point you have to accept that the conversation is basically over and this guy is way off his meds. In all fairness it isn't only liberals who fall victom to this. I have encountered several who style themselves conservatives and who believe equally ridiculus ideas about Vinc Foster's death and the Waco Branch Davidian fire. I suspect that there is something that lurks within all of us that longs for an outlandish explanation of easily explainable events if only to make life a little more like a movie script. Most of us defeat the urge with logic and education but some just surrender to it. Right now 9/11 fantasy, for that is what they are, stories are the rage and over time most of the people who expouse them will grow up. A few never will and they will continue to search for Bigfoot and Elvis to the day they die. Saving them some time and saying that one doesn't exist and the other is dead, or that terrorists were responsible for 9/11, isn't appreciated since it punctures the fantasy world that they have crafted for themselves and prefer to live in.

Answer 3

Do you really need to help the liberals believe the 9/11 truth? The entire world saw the twin towers brought down by the two planes. Hating a political antagonist is OK but this belief (of the liberals) has a bearing on the entire nation - the USA. I cannot digest the belief. Simply let them prove it or support their contention with facts and evidence. The responsibility owned by Osama for the 9/11 incident was doctored too? The disbelief is endless and you cannot help it.

Answer 4

I'm a Liberal and I believe it happened like it was reported five years ago, as do most Liberals and most people, in general. Frankly, I haven't seen any evidence at all that points to the WTC coming down due to a demolition or any other scenerio. However, it is only natural for free-thinking people to want to ask questions and question what they've been told and fed, especially from a corrupt administration. I still have some questions though about 9/11. I have always wondered what the FBI did with alleged video footage taken from several places near the Pentagon and why it hasn't been released, if there was anything to release.

It is a known fact that Bush wasn't paying serious attention and didn't want to hear much on terrorism before 9/11 and then, all of a sudden, he tries to act like he's been on top of terrorism from Day 1, he wasn't. Richard Clarke knows better than anyone else what was going on day-to-day, as far as terrorism goes, and he says Bush sidelined terrorism, which is probably one reason why we got hit on 9/11.

Answer 5

Some people cannot have their minds changed by facts because they will only see what they desire to see. NEvertheless, you can start be resating their belief to them, giving them a reason why you can "understand" what they are saying but then state facts you know - and that are popularaly held to be true before you state your case. For instance; You might say, " I see why you might think that 9/11 was a right-wing conspiracy considering some of the distrust that they may have engendered by the search WMD as a reason for going to war in Iraq or something," but even so, there is so much non-politcal evidence, but the FAA alone that the planes were chosen and piloted by non-government entities (terrorists), that to say that it was a conspiracy ignores the facts. Flight 93 crashed into a field, don't you think that were it a conspiracy the flight would have been able to make it to teir targets? Furthermore, Were it a conspiracy, why go through all of the trouble of planting Saudi Nationals and having them risk getting caught going through flight training (Moussaui DID get caught in fact), when they could have just picked any flight with Arabs on it, piloted it with their own people, and accomplished the task far more efficiently." Also, after Zarcharious Mousoui (sp?) was taken to court, he showed that he was obviously no Goverment plant. (You can then state all the reason for this... his poor self representation, his constant desire to be put to death which wne t awray (surely if he was a plant the conspiators would have wanted him dead so he couldn't talk) etc. Good Luck!

Answer 6

Before making assumptions ... How does Steve Irwin relate to Bush? Do you know any liberals who do believe that 9/11 happened? Did they stand next to you as you watched the events unfold that day? Don't classify oranges with apples only because they are round.

By The Way: Steve Irwin was not killed by a spearfish, but was speared by a stingray. It seems to me you need to know your facts before making accusations.

Answer 7

Wow. Now who exactly is it that are being called "Liberals" this time? Republicans, Democrats or someone else?

How would you know if Steve Irwin was shot, and what evidence is there to support that? It''s sad to see this question isn't backed up with any information. What facts are *you* claiming to be speaking about?

And why is it always "Liberals" who are ignorant? That makes no sense, categorizing someone into a group in which they don't belong.

Edit: Wait a sec. Are you talking about conspiricy theorists? I think those cover a broad range of the political spectrum (from Republicans, Democrats, and Nader followers). These would be the same people who believe in aliens, UFOs, and government cover-ups of Rosswell.

Answer 8

Talk to the families of those killed in flight 93.
Talk to the families of those killed in Iraq.
Talk to the families of those killed at the World Trade Center.
Talk to the families of those that were killed in the other high jacked planes.
Talk to the families of those people in Iraq who's innocent children have been murdered in the streets.
Talk to the families of those in Iraq who's parents, brothers, and sisters and other relatives have been murdered.
Talk to the people in Iraq that don't want us there.
Talk to those that have a right to believe in a GOD of there choice and not have America shove there GOD and there beliefs
down there throat.
Watch the Documentary "MY COUNTRY MY COUNTRY"
and ask me then how you can make liberals believe a lie from
George bush!
What the hell does Steve Irwin have to do with what is happening in Iraq.?
That's like saying Paris Hilton is the deciding voice in the U.S. senate.
Rent or buy UNITED 93 and watch the bonus features at the end of the film ....listen to the families testimonies...
Then ask these questions!

Answer 9

Whoa, Steve Irwin shot? WHY? WHO? WHOA!

Let's stick to the pressing situation facing the U.S. today:

a) we need oil, lots of it
b) it mostly sits outside our borders
c) it's getting expensive to find, dig out and process
d) the money we spend on oil goes through a few filters and some of it goes predominantly to fund terrorism (Iran and the Saudis as primary sponsors)

The continual denial of obvious fact and documentation is disturbing. It lends domestic and international curiosity and suspicion as to our national will and intellect. It speaks of hatred of one person overriding the abundance and overwhelming force of factual information and plausibility that centers responsibility on Al Qaeda, acting alone as an organization funded by the residual wealth of one guy, OBL, for the most part.

Bush isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch, so how can he concoct, cajole and connive to bring about such a complex and coordinated act of state-sponsored, state-suicidal terrorism? It JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

His biggest mistake was NOT telling America, "Look, YOU ALL CRAVE OIL, it's getting expensive, this bastard Saddam is sitting on a lot of it and selling it to everyone else, in euros, but US! Let's get 'im!" You'd have millions of Americans dancing in the streets urging our troops into battle. OIL is a necessity, a cog in national defense, the blood of our national circulatory system, the fuel of our economy, we NEED it, and to say or believe or imagine otherwise is LUDICROUS. It is in our national interest to secure cheap and accessible oil. Period. Government has carte blanche to do what it's got to do, diplomatically or not, to get that damn oil stateside. To believe any different, while fueling your PRIUS at the Shell station, is idiotic. If we really want to defeat terrorism and render Bush's 'cronies' harmless, we all walk to work, everyday, we all give up our petroleum tendencies...no more plastic cups, toys, phones or products, EVER (computers included), NONE! How's that sound Chairman Dean?

Liberals are not ignorant of the facts, I imagine, but are adept at creating smoke where there is no fire. This confuses the center's attention, and the center is what wins elections. They can't believe the center picked BUSH over GORE or KERRY (if you're gonna beat a half-wit, don't send out a half-wit to do the beating). And so emotion and partisanship and outright crazy-jive-talk have replaced sound policy. It's ok to support the war, it's generally on strong premises that we are there (execution wise, maybe Rummy does need to go, it's a mess over there), but we belong where our interests lie and where our security is challenged (the southern border of the U.S. and the eastern border of Iraq).

Liberals are smarter than their idiotic conspiracy talking points suggest. But they are rudderless. The Kennedy legacy of America First is long dead (speared in the azz by none other than Ted himself); the azz-kickin' Texas ways of LBJ again, co-opted by W. The fearless, steadfast determination and defense of the American Way epitomized by FDR, is DOA (heck Chairman Dean can barely get his voice up to incite a partisan crowd!). The center appeal of the Democrats is gone, forever, and they are soon becoming an afterthought. However, the center still needs representation, and the Christian Right co-opting of the RNC and subsequent candidates does little service to the middle of America. Yes Christianity is at the foundation of our nation and our values, but we rise and fall with our ability to accept and to assimilate newly arrived Americans and newly-minted voters, the youth. The Republicans must answer to more than just the far right, and I hope the post-Bush era in the GOP realizes this quickly.

As for 9/11, go back and watch the video, go back and watch the video, go back and watch the video.....we are at WAR people, accept it, let's move on to victory.

Answer 10

I totally agree about liberals just ignoring facts. I mean when bush ignored the United Nations about Iraq having nukes or biological weapons, it was totally different. Also when bush ignored New orleans for a while because he was on vacation but rushed to the white house months earlier to sign a terri sciavo life saving bill during his vacation, it was totally different because terri sciavo was going to die in only one week. Dont you just hate it when politians ignore facts?