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the bible came after his death. right?

2006-08-24 06:33:58 · 20 answers · asked by PØstapØc 2 in Arts & Humanities History

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Sure there is! I saw the guy yesterday. Bastard owes me $10 after getting into my pantry and eating all the cookies.

2006-08-24 14:32:42 · answer #1 · answered by *huge sigh* 4 · 2 0

There is no "eyewitness" proof of Jesus' existence that I am aware of. In that time period there were no reporters or blogs and people generally didn't write down their take on events while the events were happening. I believe that there is enough evidence to say that Jesus existed. The Jews, the Muslims and of course the Christians all agree that he was a real man. Whether he was the Son of God is what's disputed.

There may have been Roman records - they really liked to keep records - but I suspect that in all of the turmoil of the last two thousand years those records have been destroyed or lost.

2006-08-24 13:44:56 · answer #2 · answered by Susan G 6 · 0 0

Wizard has good point about the Romans keeping good records. It would be nice to have a copy of a receipt for Taxes paid or something for him but how much interaction with the govt. would an itinerant preacher have had? How many of us from today will be known in the year 4000? Pope John Paul ll? Bin Laden? Bill Gates? Going back a few years, Hitler? As an aside some 20th century astronauts are guaranteed some form of immortality by means of a plaque left on the moons surface which I guess due to the airless and moistureless (go easy on me if I got this wrong, I am no expert) will lay there more or less forever.

2006-08-24 13:52:10 · answer #3 · answered by ligoneskiing 4 · 0 0

Unfortunately, there are no proof that Jesus ben Maria have existed. The texts of Flavius and Josephus is not enough to be seen as a proof.
Some of you make a mistake; you can’t use the Holy Bible as a proof as it is a part of the story and it would not go in a court as a proof.
You ought to have other sources and in the case of Jesus there is no one good enough yet, but who knows?

About Mohammed, there are quite good sources to take from that is not religious manuscripts. He has really existed, that’s for sure.

The texts in the New Testament are built up upon older sources, which are about 200 years older and do not forget to read the old Greek philosophers writings from about 400 years BC and further on. A lot of the saying of Jesus can be read word by word in the Greek writings.

The Koran for example was NOT written by Mohamed him self, he could not read or write, but The Holy Koran was written about 200 years after him, and as you can see, we are too far away in time from the source it self.

Jesus has not left any scriptures him self, why? Could he read and write? Yes of course he could as well as his brother Jacob, who wrote in an excellent Greek. Read his letters in the New Testament. Why didn’t he left manuscripts? That was a habit of some of the old Greek philosopher who thought that one should discuss the issues not write about them – It is a dead knowledge they said.

2006-08-25 03:25:34 · answer #4 · answered by Realname: Robert Siikiniemi 4 · 0 0

There were several eyewitnesses, actually there may have been hundreds. The only thing is those people may not have been officially recorded for documentation.

There was the people of Pontius Pilate's court (those witnessing the trial of Jesus), the people who watched him carry the cross, and those who witnessed his final execution on the cross. It says there were people watching in the Bible but I don't have the references from it.

But yes the Bible was written after his death but several documents were written before his death and copied into the Bible from there.

2006-08-24 13:44:07 · answer #5 · answered by I want my *old* MTV 6 · 0 0

Read Josh McDowell's "He Walked Among Us. Published by Here's Life. He gives accounts for the historical Jesus. The reason why we don't read much about Jesus in the early centuries was a common practice that was used by enemies of any individual, don't write about him or blot out all records of him. Some of the Egyptian Kings did this to their predecessors. The Romans did this to Jesus. He was an enemy of the state. If you are really serious, you can order this book off of Amazon pretty cheap.

2006-08-24 14:12:21 · answer #6 · answered by tigranvp2001 4 · 0 0

According to some historians, yes. It is documented that Jesus Christ existed. However, other historians doubt the accuracy of these records, or doubt that it is the same person. For my own part, since some of these records are of the roman variety, and those tended to be very accurate for taxation purposes, I believe that yes, he did exist and did perform his pilgrimages. Whether or not he performed any miracles or said what he said (despite his teachings being unpopular with pretty much everyone) is up to interpretation, since most of what we know about him was given over to oral tradition and word-of-mouth writings (writings written down based on what one person has heard, and not seen) for several decades. However, several decades after his death, the writings were gathered and codified, with several parts removed or left out due to not being in line with the thinking of those doing the codifying. You might want to research the gnostic books of the bible.

As for the bible, parts of the old testament existed since ancient mesopotamic era, when written history first started. Over centuries the stories were gathered and written down. The new testament is what was written after his alleged death and apparent resurrection.

2006-08-24 13:46:15 · answer #7 · answered by Fierybird 2 · 1 0

The bible was assembled after his death; otherwise, the apostles would have had a hard time explaining why they were writing about that whole crucifixion thing. More to the point, the individual books, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all contain references to Jesus. Therefore, it is up to you to decide whether these books are factual or fictional. That is the basis of belief.

2006-08-24 13:44:25 · answer #8 · answered by Falt98 2 · 0 0

The bible is based on the dead sea scrolls which are accounts of events experienced or witnessed. There are other records to verify that Jesus existed. The only real debate is over Jesus being the son of God.

2006-08-24 13:40:39 · answer #9 · answered by lil 2 · 0 0

No to both questions.

There is no historical proof whatsoever that Jesus ever existed. The Romans were some of the first societies that kept good records and there is no record of him.

The first 4 books of the new Testiment were written about 70 AD, and were not directly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John, but were all written by people who supposedly knew these people, none of whom ever lived in Israel or knew Jesus.

2006-08-24 13:41:49 · answer #10 · answered by wizard8100@sbcglobal.net 5 · 1 1

Yes, actually there is--- Some Roman documents note the crucifixion-- the New Testament was written after his death-- But, Jesus did exist

2006-08-24 13:40:11 · answer #11 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

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