If national security can be used to ignore the 4th amendment?

Question

What makes you think that it can't be used to ignore the 2nd amendment?

p.s.
guns don't do much against tanks, missles and a well trained blacops group.

look at waco.

Answer 1

I figure the GOP thinks they can ignore any amendment as long as they can make the public cower in fear of "terrorists".

Libs don't all get hell bent you try the same crap with your acid rain and global warming.

Answer 2

What do you mean by this? OF COURSE it will be used to ignore the 2nd amendment. There are already "laws" in place that say in the event of a "national emergency" FEMA has "legal" right to take all guns from people, all food storage, put everyone in concentration camps (over a hundred have been built already, and they are still building them) and basically rip up the constitution and use it for toliet paper. Guess who gets to decide when and what is a national emergency?? The goverment. Do you think they would go through all that trouble to builds these camps and insert these hidden laws and create entire agencies to do these things if they didn't plan on doing it?

Answer 3

Utterly unrelated issues.

The 4th Amendment is a limitation on local, state and federal authority to search or seize.

The 2nd Amendment is a limitation on federal regulation of firearms. Not only does it have nothing to do with state or local gun regulations, but it also has nothing to do with any of the surveillance programs that the administration is attempting to justify on the grounds of national security.

About the only relation between them is that they are both found in the constitution. And an argument could be made that a government willing to ignore constitutional requirements in one area would likely be willing to infringe rights in another.

{EDIT to BrandX} OK. I'll grant that point.

But equal arguments could be made about 1st Amendment speech or assembly. Or 5th Amendment takings. And has already been made about 1st Amendment freedom of association and 6th Amendment right to a trial. So again, the only common thread is that they are all limitations on government action that could be or are being violated in the name of national security.

Answer 4

Guns do a lot against riot police and infantry though (tanks don't work in city fighting.), and not all the military men would be following orders if there were a despot to take power.

Answer 5

The issues ARE related. Theoretically, one could claim that bearing arms threatens national security too....so I agree, we need to be vigilant about infringements on our civil rights in the name of national security.

Answer 6

It is important that everyone knows this.