If a 15 yr old kid got molested in a christian church by a christian preacher and he decided not to ever be christian after that, would he burn in hell?
Now let's talk about this, he is never ever going to want to look at christianity again, and this makes him feel like he is going to hell. Why not continue sinning, the path is already clear. It don't matter if we think the minister was a true christian or not. It happens and is happening. That system is flawed. Because of this concept, i'm going to hell anyway, so i can continue to be destructive, that is the flipside of christianity. In reality, how could you ever expect someone in that situation to go back to christ. You guys are confused. Seriously, think of this logic. It is blasphemy as you would put it.
2006-08-05
13:59:03
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LOL, no i havnt been molested but trying to understand the logic christians use, it adds to my ammunition for the real battle
2006-08-05
14:13:58 ·
update #1
If he's molested by a black man, are all black men bad? If he's molested by his dad, are all fathers bad? If he's molested by a white man, are all white men bad? Just as we can't judge the entire muslim religion on the behaviours of the few or all atheists on the ones who harass people here, we cannot judge the entire Christian religion based on the actions of the few.
2006-08-05 14:04:29
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answered by Anonymous
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First of all, you would have to believe that there is a firey place of torment as preached by so many false teachers. The idea is not Christian and if you are an avid Bible student, and research this idea, you will find that the words used in the Hebrew and Greek languages do not in fact refer to anything more than the grave. Sheol and Hades are the words mistranslated in some Bibles as "hell" but there are also many other references that shows that God would never allow, much less approve of such a thing. But the churches generally have it all wrong, for their own benefit $$$$. The Catholic church especially take it upon themselves to be "the authority" and "final word" on everything. They have much to answer for. As for someone being molested, two wrongs don't make a right. This person should report the offender. If it's the Catholics, they will probably try a pay-off and move the offender to another area. The victim should get counciling, and seek the truth from the Bible, it is nothing like most are told and accept without checking for themselves without prejudice. Next time you hear a knock at your door, maybe you should listen to what is being said?
2006-08-05 14:13:42
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answered by Canned Spam 2
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First, I would like to say that I am sorry to hear that about the 15 yr old. Second, that preacher will definitely burn in hell. Now, to answer the question.....GOD knows what has happened and HE knows what is going on. There is going to be a time when he is going to come back and some people better watch out!! It would be really hard trying to convince the 15 yr old because he has been damaged. He is hurting and probably will never ever trust Christians again. However, there is hope! He doesn't never have to trust another christian again...He just need to trust GOD and Jesus Christ who will help him heal. I promise!!
2006-08-05 14:14:42
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answered by lisaisbizness 2
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the Bible makes it clear that the only way you can be separated from God is to deny Jesus Christ.
Unfortunetly, sin is always around us and Bad things happen to good people. Take a look at the world today the sin is evident however your friend is feeling that Christ let this happen and is angry over it but it was not Christ but Satan who control the preacher who did this terrible act. Once you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour you will always belong to the body of Christ unles you deny who he is.... the world is full of Christians who have had bad things happen to them and the only one who can heal us is Christ..Holding on to that will help in the healing.process. I myself was once molested and was angry and could not understand why it happened..I still don;t! BUT without my Christianity I would be lost and still very angry. We cannot Box God in and we cannot always see the big picture..but if this person will only turn to Christ and not away the Christ can begin to heal the pain. I myself do not understand the evil in this world and the only thing I can say is that we as people do not listen, we read the bible and still evil is done so I feel that God can only show us through illustration the evil that exists and then we make the choices to do good or bad. The Lord gave us free will and in the end that is what we will be judged on. The person your talking about is a victim of a person's evil but do not blame God for a person's free will. Tell this person to turn this all over to Christ and let Christ take care of the matter
2006-08-05 14:22:59
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answered by rimrod 2
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IN REALITY YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS CONFUSED. IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE YOU WOULD SEE THE ERROR OF YOUR THINKING. CHRITIANITY DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO YOU, THE PREACHER DID. HE WAS AND IS REPRESENTING HIMSELF, NOT ANY CHURCH OR ANY RELIGION. IF YOU REPENT,TURN AWAY FROM SIN, YOU WILL BE SAVED, FORGIVEN.THE SYSTEM HAS NOTHING TO DO AT ALL WITH THE ACTIONS OF A FEW MEN. WHEN YOU REPENT, AND FIND YOUR WAY BACK INTO GOD'S THRESHOLD, YOU WILL NOT GO TO HELL. SO NO NEED TO CONTINUE SINNING AND BEING DESTRUCTIVE. JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR THE VERY REASON OF BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO CHRISTIANITY. NOT ONLY DOES JESUS EXPECT MEN TO GO BACK, BUT MANY A LOST SOUL HAS FOUND A NEW LIFE WITH CHRIST AFTER REPENTING AND ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS, PREACHERS INCLUDED. IN ALL THIS REMEMBER THAT IT WAS THE PREACHER WHO DID THE SINNING HERE , NOT THE 15 YEAR OLD BOY, HE WAS A VICTIM, HE SHOULD BE MAD, NOT ASHAMED. READ THE BIBLE, IT CAN TELL YOU A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THIS PARAGRAPH. A PRAYER GOES OUT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, GOD BLESS YOU.
2006-08-05 14:21:21
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answered by the sealer 3
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Wrong. There's no "let's talk about this". I know too many people who've been taken advantage of, who've seen things, who've been abused in one way shape or form by people who they trusted and who believed to be Christian. The fact that one person does something, does not mean you take it out on God. YOU are confused. If one is molested by someone even within the church, they should not be mad at God. It's not God's fault that moron went and abused some little boy. It's the offender who is at fault and the offender alone. Remember the whole free will thing? Should the boy not return to Christianity, then that's his choice. But Jesus rejects all who reject Him. I would understand him having some trust issues with people...or clergy...but not God. God is not at fault for the sin of man. God just paid the price so that regardless of what man does, they still have a way to attain a relationship with Him through His Son Jesus. And it's not blasphemy...that would be hypocrisy.
2006-08-05 14:20:16
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answered by Darling32103 3
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ammunition for the real battle? you are misguided. see, the priest is going to hell for his unforgiven sins, as are you if you dont repent. People like you have no logic obv. You see why would you, who claim to be logical, admit God's existence and also that you know you are going to hell. The choice of eternal damnation b/c some corrupt perverted priests do things God strictly forbids doesnt sound logical to me! The flipside of Christianity is that you can be destructive? that makes no sense. What system? Christianity is not a system it is a faith through which all mankind can be redeemed through Christ and be forgiven for their sins.
As for the boy? He may lose his trust in churches but reading the Bible is not church and if he chooses to avoid churches that is understandable and God would in no way judge him on taht (b/c going to church is not a requirement to get into heaven). He has the choice to accept Christ through whom healing takes place. If he chooses to reject God, then yes he is going to hell. As will the priest who molests children. God is omnipotent and wise. Use the logic you have been given!
2006-08-05 14:34:55
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answered by Drew 2
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Were you ever with Christ ? Or did you simply attend a Church. Salvation is a personal event. It is between you and Elohim. Yes he would want you to forgive this so called "priest" Into to a sea of forgetfulness, never to be remembered again. You are in a world of your own choosing. Even though I had belonged and visited many Churches. I had a 6 year sabbatical from Church and studied on my own. I used the Bible to find my religion.
I had remembered all the things I had done before knowing the Christ and felt so unworthy of his love,
Those 6 years were the best of my life.
Remember , It was not the Christ that failed you, but a man. One who will endure a special place in hell reserved for the likes of him, as it is written.
2006-08-05 14:15:45
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answered by ? 6
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You don't understand the fundamental belief of Christianity though.
"Because of this concept, i'm going to hell anyway, so i can continue to be destructive"
Once you accept Christ as your personal savior, and believe that He died for ALL SIN, to pay the price of DEATH for ALL SIN (FOREVER) you are saved, and will go to heaven.
Also, why would the boy be cast into hell? He didn't want to be molested. Most of the time victims can't be blamed. Also, there are many good books on this subject. But before you try to start a fight, you might want to have a better understanding of the belief system you're trying to attack. ;)
2006-08-05 14:05:21
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answered by tcindie 4
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suppose you had a favorite place to go for your favorite food,french
fries. one day you went all ready for your great french fries. when
you got them they were aw full!. Q?. would you stop eating there
ever? or would you recognize there was just some dick! at the firer that day. wait and go another day or even find a new place to
get your favorite french fries? we find ways to get what we want.
I can understand your anger at the one who wronged you. Your
write it does not matter what he says he is. He is still guilty and He will have to account some day for it. His decision. Just as you
will have to account for yours. why do you choose to turn your
back on CHRIST when it was a preacher who wronged you? Don't confuse religion with a relationship with a Savior. you are not lost unless you choose to be! The Hound of Heaven is still
at your side loving you till you can learn to love yourself again. It
takes only a second to let GOD in. He can heal. the flawed system as you call the christian church cannot. It can only try to
help.No interest in them. Understandable. But don't turn your back
on the only one who already knows you and exactly what your
feeling.
2006-08-05 14:42:49
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answered by snored@verizon.net 1
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No, the victim would not burn in hell. It will be satan's agent--that minister--who will suffer God's punishment one way or another. God is just and loving why would he punish the victim?
In the Bible the meaning of hell is not eternal torture or burning. Hell has 2 meanings (a) the common grave of mankind, and (b) eternal destruction symbolized by fire.
Contact JWs in your area. They might be able to help you find comfort in understanding what the Bible really teaches, and what God's plan is for victims of abuse and their abusers.
Many of JWs came from the abused sector of Christendom.
Btw, according to Revealations, Babylon the Great--which include false christianity--will soon taste God's punishment.
Don't give up on God; nor his Words. Be wary of those who represent themselves as Christ's minister[ they may be Satan's ministers. Read 2Corin 11:14
2006-08-05 14:05:26
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answered by Anonymous
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