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13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.

Titus 1:13-14 (New King James Version)

I think our St. Paul must therefore be an evolutionist, for he is saying not to talk about Jewish fables.

2006-08-05 06:46:06 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Hmmm, Interesting Jim. However, allow me to make this comment. Condsider that Paul, previously named Saul, supposedly came from the Isle of Tarsus. NOw apart from the NT epistles, there is no evidence whatsoever that such a person ever existed. But that may be only part of the problem. The other part of the problem is that there is also no evidence by any contemporary historians of that era that any of the characters of the New Testament existed as real persons. Not one of the over 300 historians that lived during that time period make any comment about this so wonderful savior god man, Jesus, or of any of his disciples, nor about any person named Saul/Paul.
WHat does seem more applicable is that whoever was the author of the Pauline epistles, and likewise, the unknown author of the Book of Acts and the gospel of Luke, was very familiar with the Mithric cult which originated on the Isle of Tarsus some three hundred years prior to the supposed birth of Iuesus. WHat really makes this parallel religion to Christianity so interesting is that both Mithrism and CHristianity share many similiar doctrines. Mithriism originated on Tarsus...as Saul/Paul also claims to be his home. Mithrism has a super man god figure as its leader in Attis,,,and this is likewise, accompanied by Virgin birth narrative, a twelve disciple following , miracles , a Eucharist dinner in which blood drinking and eating the human body are commands for obtaining eternal life, and death resurrection scenario. IN other words, whoever wrote the Pauline epistles, which have no really Known person, knew a great deal about Mithric religion and plagiarised that pagan religion for virtually all the doctrines which are well recognized at CHristian now. At best, that makes Christianity a copycat religion. At worst, it makes Christianity a fraudulent scam, and as a pagan copycat, is condemned by Judaism teachings, the Torah. As far as the recomendation by Saul/Paul to avoid Jewish fables, it merely stands to reason, that whoever was writing the Pauline Epistles was anti Semitic,,a person that had a personal grudge against the Jews. Nothing new, it just isnt really acknowledged that the NT is really a series of very anti-Semitic writings. SIncerely

2006-08-05 07:17:20 · answer #1 · answered by Laughingwalt 3 · 4 1

you are evidently having a hard time keeping things in context, not only with the rest of the Bible, but think about what times Paul was living in, what was going on at the time.
The religious leaders of the time took God's commandments and added their own brand of law in order to keep from breaking the commandments. For example, God said remember the sabbath and keep it Holy, He gave general guidelines regarding how to keep the Sabbath but God was more interested in how people kept in in their hearts- the rabbinical Jews of the day were interested in how many miles a person walked in a day, what activities they did and did not perform on the Sabbath day. Also, the rabbinical Jews of that day were teaching people that their favor with God, their righteousness was based on what they did, how exactly they were keeping the laws. Paul was warning against this, calling these things fables- anything that taught opposite of salvation by the grace of God through the life death and resurrection of Yeshua (Jesus) was a fable. Paul was teaching walking the balance between keeping God's perfect instruction without all of the rabbinical additives because youe are saved and being confident in your salvation because you have received the sacrifice Yeshua made on our behalf. If you would read all of Paul's other teachings, in context, and from the understanding that he is writing from a Hebrew point of view and in context of Hebrew culture, tradition and understanding , you might better understand what it is he was saying here and be less likely to spread such blasphemy.

2006-08-05 06:58:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

C U Next Tuesday.

2006-08-05 06:49:39 · answer #3 · answered by Sherlock 6 · 0 0

very interesting theory. i however think that paul wanted people to be believe his myths and not any others.

2006-08-05 07:26:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I disagree.

Here is why.

I'm not sure. we can only pray.


now that I have you all in one room, can we PRAY?

Can we start todays Sermon now? :)

BIBLE: KJV

Being Christ’s Church in a Deceitful Society among scoffers: By Grace, we can overcome.

Romans 16:17-18

As has been true of every age, erroneous thinking is prevalent today. For the church to be able to

withstand the bombardment of false teaching, and (atheist) scoffers,and the Darwin lover, we must have:
Strong Convictions. Teachers of incorrect doctrine and (atheist) scoffers can be very persuasive as they lead unsuspecting listeners into wrong thinking, confusion, by posting verses without knowledge of the meaning and discouragement. In contrast, true doctrine strengthens and encourages.
For example, since salvation is by faith in Christ alone, works are an expression of faith, not a requirement for heaven (Ephesians 2:8-10); there is no condemnation for those who belong to Jesus, because the penalty for our sins—past, present, and future — has been paid (Romans 8:1; Colossians

1:14 NLT); and our adoption into the heavenly Father’s family is permanent (Ephesians 1:5). As beleieve's, we have the comfort of this.
Turn from your corrupt wicked ways of scoffers (atheists). You quote verses by deciet, you have no Truth in you. The WORD of God, clearly tells, scoffers (ATHEISTS) are filhty rags they are, and to stay away from them, and avoid them We are NOT to plant seeds. God knows it is useless and that is why he tells us, "You stand firm against them" ( Jer.17:8 14:1 Iah 44:4) You disassociate them completely.
Any Believer that does not abide in God's own Word, does not know God, according to God Himself. As believer's, we can turn to Christ for Truth.
A deepening relationship with Jesus. To hold firm to the truth of the Gospel,we must be settled in our understanding of who Christ is. Though muslims claim Jesus was a good person or perhaps even a prophet, we know He is fully God, who existed before Creation and came to earth to rescue mankind.
Others will argue that Jesus is not the only way to the Father. But they fail to understand that reconciliation with God requires that sin’s penalty be paid in full by one who is sinless. Only Jesus, the perfect Son of Man, could meet God’s requirement. That is why Jesus called Himself the “door” through which we enter God’s family (John 10:9).(Atheists) Scoffers are "chaff" A simile of the wretchedness of the wicked. Chaff is carried away by the lightest wind, and It's removal brings about cleansing by extracting what is utterly useless. (Ruth 1:22).
They will NOT stand in the judgment. They will NOT be able to withstand God's wrath when He judges.( Pslams 76:7 Exra 9:15). There is a reason God, said this. Psalms.1.1-3 Jer. 17:8 14:1 12. 1-2 18:9-10 Prov1.10-19 (vs 5) scoffers:(atheists) those who ridicule God and definatley reject His Law.
Prov 1.:22 Ruth 1:22 Jer 18:7 (pull down-destroy) 1:10 (evil-calamity) 18:11. As believer's, we can triumpth over they're lies.
A clear understanding of Scripture will enable us to distinguish truth from error. How firmly grounded are you and your church family in the Bible’s key doctrines?
Once we receive Jesus, and become new creations in Christ Jesus, II Corinthians 5:17, the Holy Spirit also enters, because if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Christ, the Bible says in
Romans 8:9. Now, because of that, these bodies are God’s temples, we are to keep them clean. Do not be as (atheist) scoffers and ruin your bodies. I Corinthians 6:19-20 says: “Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you. Therefore you are not your own, so glorify God in your
body and your mind, which belongs to Christ”. Now, Paul could say in I Corinthians 9:27: I keep my body under subjection. There are certain appetites I would follow, but I control it. Why? Because this is God’s temple. And lo and behold, one day, when Jesus returns, the Holy City is going to have a tree, and that’s
Revelation 22:2-3. There is 12 manner of fruits, and the leaves are for the health of the nations.(Atheists) scoffers, you don't have to hang your heads low in public, and feel like the filthy rags you are, come and let Christ lift you up in Truth, through the precious Blood. Let Christ take away your humility as a 10th class rated person by your evilness and hatred within your hearts for God and mankind. You can walk the street with your head held high, knowing full well, that Christ is within you. People will no longer shun you as trash, but as a brother in Christ and a lost and worthless person that found truth by the Power of the Blood.
Come today (Atheist) scoffers, Repent....Let Christ heal your sick corrupted minds, and your evil ways. The all loving Jesus is here for you today. Let the power of the cross, smite your evil tongues and take away your whorehouse language you teach your children. Do it for your children, let them see the truth
as it really is. Teach them life is not about cheating, lieing, hurting others, stand up as parents and give your children the chance NOT to go to the pits of hell itself, as you are leading them. Jesus Christ is here today, for you. You can be known in society as respectable, and a person that is no longer, less than a cursed swine, and filth that society wipes they're feet on.(Psalms 1:1-3)

Take a stand (atheist) scoffers, for God.
The Grace of God:
Romans 5:1-11

Grace is God’s goodness and kindness to those who do not deserve it, even (atheist) scoffers, and cannot earn it. Its benefits are available to everyone. Each day God causes hearts to beat, bodies to heal, and love to be given and received, regardless of peoples’ opinions of Him. He offers forgiveness to the rebellious,even freedom to sinners, and even (atheist) scoffers and intimacy with Himself to all who trust Christ as Savior. Through Jesus, He offers access to the throne of grace (Hebrews 4:16), where the Savior serves as high priest, interceding for His own (Hebrews 7:25). We know we can approach God confidently because there is no condemnation for those who belong to Him (Romans 8:1). What amazing grace! Let Grace remove you from the pits of hell, (atheist) scoffers, and give your children hope.

COME TODAY, LET THE FILTH BE REMOVED. LET CHRIST, FILL YOUR HEARTS WITH LOVE.

WE PRAY FOR SCOFFERS (ATHEISTS). WE PRAY, IN THE NAME OF CHRIST, TURN THEM FROM

THEY'RE WICKEDNESS. PRAYER TO GOD, IS THE ONLY WAY. THE POWER OF PRAYER FOR (ATHEIST)

SCOFFERS, CAN CHANGE LIVES TODAY. COME...COME TO THE LORD TODAY.

Grace........
As believers, we stand upon the immovable foundation of God’s grace. It is over us like a canopy and

surrounds like a protective wall. As the truth of it permeates our hearts and minds, we become

expressions of the Lord’s love, kindness, and goodness to others. By the power of Truth, (atheist)

scoffers can find the way in Jesus Christ.

P R A Y . F O R . (A T H E I S T ) . S C O F F E R S . . T O D A Y ......................

END ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS TO THEY'RE QUESTIONS IN HERE WITH.... "I'LL PRAY FOR YOU".

LET THE POWER OF GOD, WORK IN THEY'RE LIFE.

. . .AMEN.

Can this be happen ? .

BIBLE: KJV according to sourses:
What does God call them? Preach love to them? Lets see what God says, to do with them.

You have unbeliever's, Chaff, Scoffers.

An Atheist is a "scoffer". The WORD of God, clearly tells, ATHEISTS are filhty rags they are, and to stay away from them, and avoid them. We are NOT to plant seeds. God knows it is useless and that is why he tells us, "You stand firm against them" ( Jer.17:8 14:1 Iah 44:4) You disassociate them completely. Any Believer that does not abide in God's own Word, does not know God, according to God Himself.
Atheists are "chaff" A simile of the wretchedness of the wicked. Chaff is carried away by the lightest wind, and it's removal brings about cleansing by extracting what is utterly useless. (Ruth 1:22). They will NOT stand in the judgment. They will NOT be able to withstand God's wrath when He judges.( Pslams 76:7 Exra 9:15). This is not my opinion, this is God's very own Words, in the Bible. You know, the BIble?
The same Bible atheist scholars quote. There is a reason God, said this. Psalms.1.1-3 Jer. 17:8 14:1 12. 1-2 18:9-10 Prov1.10-19 (vs 5) scoffers:(atheists) those who ridicule God and definatley reject His Law. Prov 1.:22 Ruth 1:22 Jer 18:7 (pull down-destroy) 1:10 (evil-calamity) 18:11

Pslams 1:
godly wisdom here, declare the final outcome of the two "ways". The paths of "sinners" (unbelievers) and the "way of the righteous. he speaks progressively of assoociation with the ungodly and participation in they're ungodly ways.
God said it. End of Story. Jesus Himself said "Let the dead bury they're dead".

Use all the Internet and Dictionaries they want to and call themselves anything they wish. God "defined" what they are by His own Holy Word.
They can hang a dog tag* around they're neck in the pits if hell itself and separate each other by name categorically.
God's Word said it. By God's definition. They are nothing but filthy rags. There is NO opinion.

Hate? Where do you get hate? If God's TRUTH is hate too you, then, so be it. You and God, can and will discuss the means of your scriptural interpretation, consisting with a man-made defacto on a motion of plea bargin I guess. I dunno.

I W I L L . P R A Y . F O R . A L L . A T H E I S T S. :)

2006-08-05 06:52:59 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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